History's most brutal killers, the Majingilane Male Lions

[HouseOfLions]

(08-04-2018, 05:27 PM)Tshokwane Wrote:

(08-04-2018, 10:02 AM)HouseOfLions Wrote: Kinky and T, a 2 lion coalition held a bigger territory than both their other brothers and the manginjis.

It's a little misguided, stating it as that. They stayed in that territory conquered by the six(or five, if Mak wasn't with them, but the idea remains). Not by them alone. By the six, and when the others came back west, they decided to stay.

Defending it wasn't as difficult as it seems, considering it was basically empty, aside of the old Rollercoaster male, who they had running all over the place for his life.

(08-04-2018, 10:02 AM)HouseOfLions Wrote: Stop saying they were only 4 so they couldn't hold a bigger territory, Kinky and T showed you could. Sure they paid the price for that but it also shows they had the confidence, courage and aggression.

It's isn't a matter of "couldn't". 

They could, and did hold basically all at some point, following their second takeover, that is in 2014. They just simply decided to move camp and focus on the new one, the new prides.

What they or any other coalition can't (couldn't) do, and this is an issue that will present itself to the Birmingham males now, is protect efectively all of that territory.

So I would make a little change in your statement. To me, what lions do isn't kill and breed. 

It is protect a territory and breed. The former involves, from time to time, killing, but killing isn't their first and primary concern.

Actually no, kinky and T held the majority of the east with the other 4 settled in the west, similar to the Manginjis. Sure they captured it all together but they still held the east after they split from the other 4, for a majority of the part.

How was it not as difficult as it seems? That big of a territory is absolutely difficult to control and maintain, especially for 2 lions. And It seems you forgot that it was during this time that they beat or killed multiple lion coalitions that brought up the total number of coalitions Mapogos beat.

And sure it was "empty" but that applies to the Manginjis as well. In fact, it was even easier for them as the Mapogos took out all others.

Sorry but you are confusing what it means to protect territory. Male lions do that BY KILLING. So what I am saying is still right - THEY KILL TO PROTECT. And sure killing isn't their primary option but it was for the Mapogos. That is the main reason I mentioned that. And another thing, if multiple lions are attacking you over and over, then killing/defending (can be used interchangeably here) become frequent. In the manginjis case, this wasn't the case as most coalitions were content with their territories, not to mention, they weren't big enough (number wise). Reply