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History's most brutal killers, the Majingilane Male Lions

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Quote:I doubt the two Matimbas were involved in this altercation, and the article points out Ginger wasn't involved in the skirmish/fight.
No, the article doesn't say this. It says that possibly both of them were involved, they just don't know. 

Quote:Ginger left earlier for two possible reasons
Nowhere does it say he left earlier.

Quote:b) the 2 Majingilane didn't come to fight since it was a 2 vs 2, typical Majingilane mentality, this possibility is more probable.
So, let's see the actual article and compare it with this opinion of yours.

On the evening of the 22nd February, the Matimba males were seen quite far west of their territory and roaring with a Mhangeni lioness, in Majingilane territory. The males roared while moving eastwards throughout the evening.

So, both Matimba males were there, ensuing a clear challenge. How did the Majingilane responded?

Its seems the calls of the Matimba’s in their territory earlier in the evening was just too much to bare. The result: two of the Majingilane coalition came east to seek the newer males out.

A pretty clear answer, Black Mane and Scar Nose responded to the threat and moved towards the Matimbas.

The fight must have occurred very late that evening or in the early hours of the morning but what we have been left with is a fairly clear outline of what happened and who came out of it as the victors.  We don’t know which of the Matimba males were caught in this fight (possibly both) but when this coalition was found the next morning they were very far apart from one another.

So, the Matimbas were moving and roaring together. The two Majingilane came to get them and suddenly Ginger finds himself kilometers away from his brother, almost in the border with Mala Mala.
If he wasn't involved in the fight? Why did he move out that way, to a territory that is not his own and close to another threat, possibly the one that hurt him?...

Now, I concede that he might have just run away when the two Majingilane came, leaving his brother alone to fight, but that only adds up to my point.

Even if the fight itself was a 2 vs 1, the article shows the interaction between the two sets of males was a 2 vs 2.

Quote:HB came out alive and unharmed from an immense fight.  

He was struggling to stand. When rangers saw him in the morning, he rocked and struggled before managing to get to his feet, gingerly walked a few paces before lying down once more. Whether this was from sheer exhaustion, stiffness from the previous evening’s forays or some internal damage, we can’t be sure but this male had certainly found himself in a precarious position.
Quote:but the 2 Majins called the other 2 Majins to start a new attack
The noise must have attracted the attention of the other two Majingilane brothers and they came from the west to join the fray.

So, it's clear the weren't calling the other two to "start a new attack". The attack was already done when the others came.
Quote:2 vs 1 was little difficult for them so they thought: "let's play it safe" since 4 vs 1 is a more successful strategy.
The Majingilane started to get moving last night once the cover of darkness descended, and they began heading straight in the direction of the unsuspecting dark-maned Matimba male. As the distance between the coalitions lessened, the vehicles switched their lights off, thereby allowing the Matimba male to see the threat coming and so as to not give his position away. The Matimba male saw the two Majingilane brothers first and he leapt up and silently slunk away into the darkness (he was moving easily by this point and it seemed that if there were any injuries, they weren’t severe at all). What happened from here can really only be described as pandemonium. As soon as the two Majingilane smelt him they took off in his direction, the dark-maned Majingilane seeing him first and the male with the scar nose following just behind. The Matimba male disappeared at full speed and from here the Majingilane ran in circles trying to establish where he had gone. The roaring was continuous. 

Do you see any indication there that Black Mane and Scar Nose where somewhat worried about Hairy Belly? If they were so afraid of making the move against the Matimba, then why they didn't waited until the other two came to attack the Matimba?...

I will finish this response by quoting the last bit of the article.

As of this morning, all four Majingilane brothers were found back in the west, in the heart of their territory and seemingly unscathed. The two Matimbas were not found and we are sure that they are both hiding out in the south, attempting to find each other, licking their wounds and figuring out their next move. After what is now two battles won for the Majingilane, will the Matimba coalition attempt to face off their opponents again or will they learn from previous mistakes and steer clear?

I don't mind opinions. We all have them, and it's a part of what drives us to learn. But I like them to be based off Facts, not just a personal feeling on the matter. If we have an article like this one that gives the answers we're looking for, then we should use it and base our opinions off it.
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RE: History most brutal killer, the Majingilane Male Lions - Tshokwane - 02-25-2016, 05:06 PM
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