Tiger Predation

[Pckts]

(02-06-2024, 08:45 PM)Apex Titan Wrote:

(02-01-2024, 11:37 PM)Pckts Wrote: Aside from Gaur being completely out of frame when the Tiger is spotted, so who knows how long apart it is. Following is making a kill? 
Once again, stop making conclusions without actual evidence to back it.

You're the one who makes conclusions without any shred of evidence to back it, look in the mirror. When did I imply that the tiger "made the kill"?? All I said is that the tiger is following this large bull gaur to kill it. Whether the tiger killed this bull or not is unknown.

The tiger in the video is walking on the exact same path and heading in the exact same direction that big bull gaur is. Also the manner in which that tiger is walking looks like he's following that bull gaur. Now considering the fact, which has been observed countless times for many decades by actual field experts, that tigers follow both the tracks/trails and the animals that they are hunting, makes me adamant that this tiger is most likely following this bull gaur to kill it.

And also considering the well known scientifically established fact that bull gaurs get frequently killed by tigers and that even the largest bull gaurs fall prey to single tigers, makes me even more adamant that this tiger is stalking this bull gaur to kill him.

Quote:Agreed @Spalea , lots of absurd claims there. Also I don’t think they understand how large a “60kg dog” actually is, now add multiple ones equipped with claws and large teeth to go a long with a 100 -140kg tigress all participating to take down a Cow, which isn’t close to a Bull by any stretch. The difference between a cow which is shown in the video and a big bull is massive, that goes for Capes too. Bulls are nothing but muscle mass, aggression and territorial.

Here's the context of the account/video that @ganidat posted. The tigress was actually training her small cub how to hunt and kill adult gaurs. Initially, the tigress 'Maya' single-handedly attacked and badly crippled the adult gaur and then let her small cub attack and maul it as she sat on the side and watched on!

So the fact that the tigress single-handedly attacked and crippled the gaur to the point it couldn't even move and then chilled on the side and watched her small cub practice on it alone, just speaks volumes on even a tigress's incredible ability at killing dangerous prey like adult gaurs. The tigress could have easily single-handedly killed this adult cow gaur, but it was a training session for her small cubs.

Here's the full description to this account by the eyewitnesses:

"The moment we reached at Pandharpauni 1, we saw Maya and one of the Cubs swimming in the water then suddenly Maya came out of the water as she saw a Gaur (Indian Bison) on the other side of the waterhole. She eye-locked the target and started walking towards the Gaur … what a moment as one could really see the change in her body language while preparing for the hunt!..

"She initially attacked from the back and tore the hamstring so that the Gaur could not move. Then she attacked on the Gaur’s shoulder and neck, one could notice that she actually wanted to train her cubs and hence, she did not kill the Gaur but instead allowed her cubs to attack & hunt."...

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After hamstringing and badly crippling the Gaur, the tigress just chills on the side and watches her small cub get to work:

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Small cub mauling the gaur without the tigress:

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Yes, bull gaurs, especially big bulls are certainly nothing but "muscle mass, aggression and territorial" like you said. Even immense size and strength. And in spite of this, they still get slaughtered and eaten by single tigers. How? Why?...

Because tigers are massive apex predators and supreme killers that have a lethal combination of size, strength, power, speed, agility, weaponry and killing skills, that are specifically designed and built to single-handedly attack, subdue and kill huge dangerous animals like bull gaurs, bull buffaloes etc, and regulate their numbers.

You only look at the bull gaur's physicality, but look at the tiger's physicality and what its specifically built to do!

According to just my views or opinions? NO. But according to mountains of undeniable evidence and accounts reported and documented by various field biologists, scientists, zoologists, naturalists, experienced hunters, trackers, and forest guides for many decades.

“Mountains of undeniable evidence” 

Yet never once has a kill been seen on big Bull outside of a fantastical story of a Tiger making an Gaur bellow sound then kicking up a dust bowl to camouflage itself then snapping its neck in one instance. Something that’s never come close to happening again.
Amazingly kills on cows are seen often enough though which is interesting in itself since Bulls are nomads, they are far more susceptible to predation with their lack of numbers and bold attitude which means standing its ground while cows flee.

Animals die naturally in the real world, seeing a predator on a kill doesn’t necessarily mean the animal was killed by that predator. Animals get sick, weakened by age, young and underdeveloped, etc. All of those things factor in to it’s ability to live and defend itself.
A predator on a carcass or hair found in scat aren’t conclusive and don’t give enough evidence to determine a cause of death.
Jumping to conclusions without knowing the details is pointless. Reply