Brown Bears (Info, Pics and Videos)

[Shadow]

(06-28-2019, 08:01 PM)Luipaard Wrote:

(06-28-2019, 05:24 PM)sanjay Wrote: Awesome find Shadow,
I uploaded it for WildFact members

Watching this makes me think why people think a lion or a tiger could overpower a bear.

What comes to confrontations between big carnivores, reasonable discussions are usually impossible. Many discussion threads are full of fanatic hotheads, who want only to "win" debate. For them facts are just something dull to ruin a good story. 

Here in thread On the edge of extinction-A-The tiger has been dealt relationship between Ussuri brown bear-Amur tiger more than enough. Old cases/information recycled many times, so if someone is interested to look closer, there can be found quite a lot. It is best to leave that issue there.

If some new member haven´t seen those discussion, then I will warn this much. Unless someone doesn´t have something new, published 2019, do NOT put here links. Those all have been seen more than enough times and nothing new, what couldn´t be found from extinction thread. And if someone finds something new, post those there, where that topic is/has been already discussed.

I put some main things here just if someone is interested and really haven´t seen before discussions here in wildfact.

1. Yes, tigers are known to hunt also brown bears, but known cases (at least so far) are females and cubs/young ones. Not adult males.
2. There are some claimed cases, 3-4 in about 200 years, where there might have been tiger attacking adult male brown bear, but confirmed cases, 0, none.
3. Adult male brown bears and adult male tigers seem to avoid confrontations. There are observations about both species, that avoiding each others. Bears have killed some reasonable sized male tigers, but oldest  was estimated to be about 3 years old and that isn´t yet tiger in his prime.
4. This topic is really so worn out, that only more worn out topic can be endless tiger-lion yes-no virtual war. 

So yes, in this video there are two really good looking adult male brown bears. Very comparable with their "brothers" who live side by side with Amur tigers. But female bears are clearly smaller and they can´t feel as secure as males when tigers are near. 

Some people want to say, that tigers "dominate" bears, because they kill more bears than vice versa. That is one way to look at it, but then again it can be asked, that who forgot to tell that to male bears? 

That is pretty much all relevant about this issue, when putting a complex issue in a very rough overall summary. People are naturally free to believe whatever they want, but all have to remember, that others are free to keep their believes too when there isn´t enough information to prove something all the way. 

This topic is best to leave to rest unless some new information comes up. If old information is tried to share here now, I will remove those postings. There is no point to pollute one more thread with same old tables, studies, articles and who knows what. This thread is and will be about brown bears in the same way as tiger thread is about tigers. Reply