Amur Tigers

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Here is one.

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https://shaggygod.proboards.com/thread/7...boar%C2%A0

This is the info is (obtained from the now dead Shaggygod forum, the photos there seem to no longer be working there but they are in the Domain of the Bears) where it seems more adult male wild boars have been killed by Siberian tigers. I don't doubt tigers are the much better hunters yet I am still surprise by the results from this chart.

An account of black bear (American) preying on feral hogs:

Black Bear – The black bear is known to prey on feral hogs of all ages; however, the impact of predation by this bear on feral hog populations is not known. Some researchers have speculated that black bears probably kill few if any feral hogs, especially given that an adult hog would represent a formidable adversary for a black bear. In fact, in the 1920s a feral boar in the Okefenokee Swamp was reported to have killed a black bear in a fight between the two animals. Similar accounts of feral boars killing bears during fights in the Ozark Mountains of Arkansas were reported in the 1880s. Being opportunistic, black bears have been reported to raid nylon net live traps used for feral hog control at high elevations in the GSMNP to obtain any trapped hogs contained within these devices.

https://articles.extension.org/pages/63656/natural-predators-of-feral-hogs

This link is about brown bears attacking wild boars in Czech republic:




VIDEO: Wild bear caught on camera attacking boar in eastern Czech Republic

Conservationists estimate that there are three brown bears roaming the Beskydy mountains, and sightings have been increasing
Common question: are there any bears in the Czech Republic?

While the answer is generally no, sightings have been on the increase over the past weeks in the Beskydy mountains near the Czech border with Slovakia.
Last week, a report of a bear pursuing a wild boar through the Masaryk riverbed in Beskydy was reported, following other sightings of bears in the area.

On Tuesday, a bear was caught on camera attacking a wild boar in the forests surrounding the village of Staré Hamry.
In both cases, park rangers have confirmed that the bear(s) killed the wild boars.


https://www.expats.cz/czech-news/article/video-wild-bear-caught-on-camera-attacking-boar-in-eastern-czech-republic

Brown bear scaring off a wild boar.

American black bear and wild hog.

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I  believe this account means sub adults and females are included in the tiger's menu generally rather than cubs.

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Biologists specifically mention "predation" and "prey item". NOT SCAVENGING. In fact, they never mention that tigers are scavenging on dead bears.

[color=#333333][size=small][font=Roboto, sans-serif][size=large]So please ask the administrator of the bear forum, why does he constantly make stuff up??  Why does he never post any shred of evidence to back up his wild speculations, assumptions and empty claims? [/size][/font][/size][/color]

Its a well known established fact, that Amur tigers actively prey on bears, studies prove it and biologists specifically mention that the significant amount and frequency of bear remains regularly found in tiger scats in summer and autumn is due to tiger predation on bears, and yet the administrator still keeps saying that its because of tigers "feeding on carrion", although this is completely wrong, why?  

While I don't usually answer for other posters, I believe this is one of the accounts he refers to:

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Also there are posters who believe that the huge male tiger might have scavenge of the bear as the hunter came across the tiger eating the bear. 

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Is the tiger capable of killing the bear (probably about its weight)? Yes. However, some would call the killing unconfirm if one comes across one eating a carcase of another if it has been there for three to four days. It could also mean the tiger might have killed it too.

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Now the question is, where did the administrator of the bear forum, hear that the Ussuri brown bear is the "dominant beast" and "Boss of the woods" in the Ussuri taiga forests ??  Based on what evidence?  According to which expert, biologist or zoologist??  According to which native tribe in this region?

Or is he making stuff up again, like he always does?

I think this is one of the source he might be referring too:

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https://www.researchgate.net/publication/313622177_Searching_for_the_Coexistence_Recipe_a_case_study_of_conflicts_between_people_and_tigers_in_the_Russian_Far_East

SOCIAL ORGANIZATION OF THE NORTHERN TUNGUS BY SERGEI MIKHAILOVICH SHIROKOGOROV- RUSSIAN ANTHROPOLOGIST

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/S._M._Shirokogoroff

"IF A TIGER OCCUPIES A CERTAIN SMALL VALLEY, NO BEAR OR NO MAN MAY COME TO DISTURB IT” “NEITHER DOES THE TIGER GO TO THE VALLEYS OCCUPIED BY THE LARGE BEAR"
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"THE PLACES BELONGING TO THE BEAR MAY EASILY BE RECOGNIZED BY MAN, BY THE TIGER, OR BY OTHER BEARS”
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"THE TIGER, ACCORDING TO THE TUNGUS, (INDIGENOUS PEOPLE OF SIBERIA), IS NOT SO INTELLIGENT AS THE BEAR”

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https://books.google.pl/books?ei=i7KfUtWXGMSVhQfx4YCQCg&hl=pl&id=_7wmAQAAMAAJ&dq=the+bear+slowly%2Cbut+surely+conquers+the+tiger&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=tiger

Another account:
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https://www.litmir.me/br/?b=153848

Two more:

Various reactions were observed in such situations in the case of bears. One brown bear, which was staying in an area permanently inhabited by tigers, clearly felt himself to be the complete master in that place. Another brown bear, once abruptly turned away from his former path upon his encounter with tiger tracks. But a large, apparently male, Himalayan (or Asiatic black) bear (which we observed visually), like the brown bear that has already been mentioned, clearly did not fear the presence of tigers. He walked along the tiger's tracks and rested in the same wild boar den as did the tiger.


Winter Ecology of the Amur tiger by A.G.Yudakov, I.G.Nikolaev

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Winter_Ecology_of_the_Amur_Tiger_Based_U/tSV9ngEACAAJ?hl=en

S.P. Kucherenko -
www.litmir.me/br/?b=559283&p=32
For the winter, the Manchu brown bear usually lays down in a den. The tiger, having come across it, will not fail to crush its inhabitants and eat it. He does not touch only large males, which he unmistakably recognizes by smell. The smell tells the beast about a lot: the type, sex, age and size of the animal, its physiological state and health, even about the mood and intentions, and also, probably, about many things that we do not know about.



In September 1966, in the upper reaches of the Ussuri, the hunter-fisherman V. Tvilenevwatched a fight between a tiger and a brown bear from a hill under the following circumstances. The she-bear with the bear cub went out to the roe deer that had not been eaten by someone and pounced on her greedily. Suddenly, at some instant, she sharply turned towards the dense hazel and sat down. After a while, a tiger came out of there, saw a bear and immediately, without hesitation, rushed at her. The fight was fierce, swift and accompanied by the roar of both animals. They flew to the sides, then again interlocked in a huge ball, in which flashed first yellow, then brown. The bear cub, meanwhile, was restlessly watching the fight. In the end, the bear calmed down, and the tiger, lying down, very slowly, swaying, went into the bushes. 

Several hours later V. Tvilenev came to the place of the fight. It resembled a plot that had just been grubbed for a vegetable garden - the trees and shrubs that had been torn out by the roots had not yet been removed. A dead bear lay there and then. There was literally no living place on it ... A bear cub whined mournfully at the body of the deceased mother.

Another experienced fisherman K. Poddubny told me: “We were looking for ginseng. In the summer. They ran across our backs, and they roar throughout the taiga ... The tiger seemed to be on top more often, but apparently could not bite through the bear's neck in any way. They flew in the wind. They scattered, roared, grabbed again. Then, we looked, they jumped away from each other and stood, swayed. They harassed each other almost to death. And I think there was no winner, because the tiger scratched out the eyes of the clubfoot and he wandered into the forest , bumping into trees, the tiger did not go, or rather crawled: his legs did not hold ... ".

Of the 17 cases of tiger-brown bear fights that I know for certain in the Sikhote-Alin in 1965-1976 . at eight the animals dispersed, at six the tiger killed the bear, and at three the bear defeated. In addition, nine cases of attacks on bears in dens were recorded, in which the tiger crushed and ate seven adult animals and nine cubs.

Careful observations nevertheless indicate that in the relationship between the Amur tiger and the waking brown bear, the latter is more aggressive, and he chases the tiger and gets involved in a fight at a time when hungry, as a rule, in autumn, when nuts and acorns are in short supply. This is most typical for connecting rods.The tiger voluntarily attacks mainly small bears, knowingly confident of victory. The tigress, protecting the cubs, fights with any bear and dies more often.
According to the materials of the zoologist V.E. Kostogloda, of the 28 cases of fights of these predators studied by him, the priority in attack was on the side of the brown bear; in 11 cases the tiger won, in 9 - the bear , 8 fights ended in vain. Reply