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Eyes on or hands on? A discussion of human interference

Guatemala GuateGojira Offline
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( This post was last modified: 10-07-2014, 10:33 AM by GuateGojira )

I should not waste any more energy in this useless debate with you. But is simple idiotic to say that I have not shown data. You, over all, know that this is not true. You know very well the history of the captured tigers in India and Nepal, so why now you want all the data here again? just to crush you? just to satisfied your stubbornness?
 
You have not showed any data, you only showed a few news reports with sensationalistic articles, that like I have showed, DON’T show the full context of the situation. They simple don’t describe the simple case overall and ignore completely that all the remaining sample of captured animals is alive and very well.
 
About the collaring of tigers in the future, well, that is simple logic. Check that Nepal is radiocollaring tigers again and the government of Bhutan should follow its steeps. The nonsense of Indian authorities should be ignored, as this method is safe and highly important for tiger conservation. Don’t forget that all the conservation “knowledge” born from the scientific studies, most of them made with radiocollars.
 
Finally, I can’t simple accept your idea of "conservation" as is just an empty solution that don’t take in count realities that you can’t ignore. You simple live in a fairytale. There is not going to be a “touristic” life for the tigers anymore. India is not Kenya, there are deeper problems and tiger-human interaction is a fact that will never end. Deeper and more plausible solutions most be created, you can't just clear the parks from people, there is the need of management and there is a huge logistic in this. Other thing, inhabiting other areas that are devoid of tigers is another huge mistake. Why you are going to start a new injure when the old ones are still bleeding?
 
To say that radiocollaring is pointless and stress inducing is anti-scientific and a HUGE lie. Just an ignorant person can say this, especially when most of the tiger knowledge at this day is thanks to this method.
 
Again, your opinions should be respected, but your arguments are based only in your simple "opinion". I have presented data from Dr Chundawat (but you simple don't even read it) and you know very well the data from Chitwan from Smith et al. (1983). What I am going to do, IF I have the time, is to scan some pages from the book of Dr Karanth “The way of the tiger”, then, you will see how important is radiocollaring, that simple stopped because ignorant people simple can’t accept the methods that don’t understand.
 
By the way, here are two good books for you:
http://books.google.com.gt/books?id=qDXs...navlinks_s
http://books.google.com.gt/books?id=n2sZ...navlinks_s
 
Unbiased and direct in the statements. AT LEAST, take the time to read it, maybe you can learn something.
 
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RE: Bigcats News 2 - Pckts - 09-22-2014, 03:53 AM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - GuateGojira - 09-22-2014, 10:56 AM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - Siegfried - 09-22-2014, 03:42 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - Pckts - 09-22-2014, 10:24 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - tigerluver - 09-22-2014, 10:25 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - Pckts - 09-22-2014, 10:27 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - Pckts - 09-22-2014, 10:34 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - GuateGojira - 09-23-2014, 07:31 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - GuateGojira - 09-23-2014, 08:03 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - Pckts - 09-23-2014, 09:57 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - GuateGojira - 09-28-2014, 09:06 AM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - Pckts - 09-28-2014, 10:02 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - Richardrli - 09-30-2014, 05:58 AM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - GuateGojira - 09-30-2014, 09:14 AM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - Pckts - 09-30-2014, 10:34 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - Pckts - 09-30-2014, 11:09 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - peter - 10-01-2014, 06:33 AM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - GuateGojira - 10-01-2014, 09:46 AM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - Pckts - 10-01-2014, 10:00 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - Pckts - 10-01-2014, 10:04 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - peter - 10-02-2014, 07:06 AM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - tigerluver - 10-02-2014, 08:49 AM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - sanjay - 10-02-2014, 09:44 AM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - peter - 10-02-2014, 09:58 AM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - GuateGojira - 10-02-2014, 10:17 AM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - GuateGojira - 10-02-2014, 10:32 AM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - GuateGojira - 10-02-2014, 10:58 AM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - Pckts - 10-02-2014, 11:24 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - Pckts - 10-02-2014, 11:32 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - Pckts - 10-02-2014, 11:33 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - GuateGojira - 10-03-2014, 09:55 AM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - GuateGojira - 10-03-2014, 10:03 AM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - Pckts - 10-03-2014, 08:03 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - GuateGojira - 10-04-2014, 09:26 AM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - Pckts - 10-04-2014, 11:03 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - GuateGojira - 10-07-2014, 10:32 AM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - Pckts - 10-08-2014, 09:23 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - Pckts - 10-08-2014, 10:32 PM
RE: Bigcats News 2 - GuateGojira - 10-09-2014, 09:12 AM



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