Eyes on or hands on? A discussion of human interference

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@Shardul

Ok, now I get a clear idea of what you're saying. So like I told you already, the only thing I "lumped" ustad and t42 together with was being tranq'd by humans and then proceeding to attack humans. Thats why the comparision is correct.
We have already had the debate on "man eaters" compared to "man killers" feel free to read it on the "man eaters" thread.
I agree with both classifications, but that was never what was being discussed.

"This discussion started because you claimed that T-24 was being constantly harrassed by tourists, forest rangers and villagers and hence was forced to turn maneater."
I "claimed" none of that, I THINK that the all of those factors a long with being tranq'd incorrectly, waking up mid operation, collared or "harrassed" all help make ustad and T42 agressive towards people.

"Lastly, there is a constant theme to your posts regarding all kinds of man-animal conflict, which goes like this:"
"human tiger interaction = human harrass tiger = tiger attack/kill human = human fault"

"I don't agree with this and find it too simplistic, which is what we were debating, or atleast I was."

You are free to have your opinion, but I'll give mine on the matter.
I don't "blame a human" when a tiger  attacks, I "blame a human" depending on the scenerio. So to try and lump that excuse in to every single tiger attack in history is wrong, but to deny the facts of these specific attacks is also wrong.

Human beings are the only creatures to have "laws" and a sense of intitlement.
Tigers don't live by these "laws" they don't go around destroying our habitat, taking our food, hunting us to extinction, capturing us and using us as entertainment, stealing our children from us and selling them to the highest bidder, taking our bones to cure imaginary medicine and list goes on.

We lived for thousands of years side by side without hunting them close to extinction and conflicts happen, but the idea that we have the right to capture all because they make us unsafe is completely false. If that is the case than all sharks need be removed from the water and any animal needs to be removed from their habitat. There are 7 billion people in this world, there are 3,000 tigers.

One last remark, if a tiger sneaks into a village home, snatches a baby and eats it, is the Tiger to blame?
Yes, but only because its a predator and it is doing what predators do.
Is a human to blame?
Yes, only because it is living in the same place as a predator and to expect the predator to not be a predator is foolish.

But heres the difference, the tiger doesn't get to dictate which humans are removed from Its habitat, but humans get to decide which tigers are removed?
That is where my resentment towards some humans come from.

 

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