The "King" of the bears - comparison between the Polar bear and the Brown bear

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(12-14-2018, 01:55 PM)Panther Wrote:

(12-14-2018, 01:08 PM)Shadow Wrote: Just to clear this so, that maybe you too would understand. Those bears mentioned 960-1346 lbs were from autumn weighing and those are a sidenote in that chart. In chart itself is a different weight range for 5 bears in age class 8-9 years old was 715-1190 lbs. There are some things which would be nice to know better, but when on chart there are bears aging 8-9 years old, looks like, that some weighed bears have been ruled out from chart based on that. For instance that heaviest bear mentioned seem to be one such bear.

As I say, it would be nice to make some questions to people who made that chart to clear some details. Otherwise I have already said what I have to say about these charts at this point, so I am not starting to repeat all over again. It is all there in my previous postings.

Yeah, but there's no mentioned that these 5 bears of 8-9 years weighed in spring. 

As I said, those 4 male Brown bears were definitely be older than this age class, which is why they didn't included the average of 8-9 year old male brown bears.

So those bears most likely be much older males probably in the age of 13-14 years. As Brown bear males are considered to reach their maximum size at 14years, which was mentioned in the study I posted...

I add this here still to point out, why I am very cautious with charts about bears, if there is no information about ages or times when weighed. We have now chart with 5 bears from Alaskan peninsula and age group is mentioned to be 9+ years. So all we know, that all bears should be at least 9 years old or older, no idea how much older oldest were. Average weight is told to be 389 kg and weighing time can be anything from spring to autumn.

Now when source file for Kodiak weights was found, it could be noticed, that when taking to comparison 5 Kodiak bears in age class 8-9 years old, average weight of 5 bears was 379 kg (835 lbs). It is not clear when these bears were weighed, but it looks like, that to this chart was included bears inside age class 8-9 and weights for sure could be from spring or autumn too.

Ok, so we have here bear average weights and no certainty about time of year when weighed. Then what comes to Alaskan peninsula bears also no idea how old bears have been, but from Kodiak bears it is clearly told, that no older, than 8-9 years old. So it is still unfair situation for Kodiaks. When looking all figures, it is impossible to add random figures, but there is one bear, which can be added to comparison, because anyone can see, that it is not included to chart. It is that 1346 lbs individual, which simply has to be older, than 9 years.

So, 5 Alaskan peninsula bears 9 years old or older, average weight 389 kg.
Then 5 Kodiak bears 8-9 years old, average weight 379 kg + 1 older Kodiak bear, weight 611 kg (1346 lbs). Average weight is now 417,5 kg and can anyone say, that this is unfair comparison based on known information about these charts?

So this is the reason, why I am very cautious with charts if there is not good information, that how data has been collected. Reply