The size of the Barbary lion

[BorneanTiger]

(04-28-2019, 03:17 PM)BorneanTiger Wrote:

(04-26-2019, 11:05 AM)Spalea Wrote:

(04-26-2019, 09:40 AM)BorneanTiger Wrote:

(04-26-2019, 12:18 AM)Spalea Wrote: @GuateGojira :

About #61: it's a fact, the romans were the first people to have made some massive wild animals deportations from their places of origin. Mainly from the Atlas mountains... But also from the Middle East. The non-sedated animals thrown with each other in small cages might be highly stressed and aggressiv during the crossing. And if few of these were wounded, they could be torn into pieces. It was already a slaugther before arriving into the arena.

If also from the Middle East, apart from North Africa, then would that also mean that they took in Asiatic lions, which was recorded in places like ancient Syria (https://zookeys.pensoft.net/lib/ajax_srv..._preview=1) and Turkey (https://archive.org/stream/mammalsofsov2...2/mode/2up, https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream...sAllowed=y) (where the Caspian tiger was BTW)? Also, do you know if they took in animals from European areas outside Italy, especially Greece, where the lion appears to have been present up to the early part of the first millennium CE (http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks03/0300611h.html, https://archive.org/stream/pausaniassdes...earch/lion)?

C.A.W. Guggisberg spoke about the first emperor Marcus Fulvius Nobilior having sacrificed all the leopards and lions he had captured during his Aetolia campaign, 158 before Christmas. Always according to the same author, the first menageries would be dated from the 3th century BC. Mostly animals came from Egypt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aetolia

I see that Aetolia is in southwestern Greece, just north of the Mediterranean. What an interesting place for lions and leopards to be have been in: 

https://emptylighthouse.com/travel/aetol...to-go-2018 

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Evinos River in Acarnania and Aetolia: https://www.alamy.com/evinos-river-in-ac...66488.html 

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Mountains of Acarnania and Aetolia: https://www.dreamstime.com/mountains-aca...e105377133

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How interesting that Acarnania and Aetolia have been mentioned here, because between these regions is the Acheolous River, which Herodotus (https://www.researchgate.net/publication...cal_record) mentioned as a boundary of the Greek lion's range: https://wildfact.com/forum/topic-europea...6#pid82046 Reply