The size of the Barbary lion

[acutidens150]

(01-18-2022, 08:26 PM)GuateGojira Wrote:

(01-18-2022, 10:27 AM)acutidens150 Wrote: Barbary lion captive sizes.

Shoulder height: 
Male: 80-100 cm
Head-body:
Male: 160-190 cm 
Total length: 
Male: 235-280 cm
Female: 250 cm 

The fact that the smaller male is smaller than the female (or shorter) at 235 against 250, it's shorter iin length, tells me that the male isn't adult, or is a dwarf male (Barbaries in captivity were said to be smaller, usually, although sometimes they weigh a lot) Usually male lions are 30 cm (1 feet) longer than females in total length. 
So I think the male of 100 cm tall, 190 cm long, is quite average-sized.

There are no measurements from female Barbary lions in the "flesh" in litterature. About the small captive male, I am not surprised as captive specimens may be smaller (check the Ethiopian lions). However the head-body length of 160 cm is in the range of fully grow adult males lions measured between pegs, so definitelly it was an adult (tail length is not relevant and may change depending of the individuals). The same with the shoulder height.

A lion of 190 cm in head-body is average for South African lions, but not for the northern populations. In fact, that was probably a big Barbary lion, specially if we take in count the fact that the entire subspecies Panthera leo leo (which includes the Indian and West African lions) are the smaller of the populations with a head-body length of about 170-180 cm in straight line.

So, except for the 243 kg male, there is literally nothing that we have from wild Barbary lions? Reply