Gijima coalition

[Mapokser]

(07-31-2023, 05:58 AM)Tylermartin! Wrote:

(07-31-2023, 05:00 AM)Mapokser Wrote: @Tylermartin! Why do you think Ndhzengas are the strongest? BDM aside both the PCM and Gijimas have shown more strength.

Gijimas performance against the Ndhzengas themselves when they were young nomads, then against Kambulas and Nkhulus more recently are very impressive. In comparison the older N'was were running from only 2 Birminghams despite being 4 males in 2020 and the Bboys track record in chasing during clashes is pretty bad, still they only returned when Nhenha was basically alone.

Then there are the PCM, they took Nhenha and NK out with negative difficulty and were seen chasing them even before they turned 5yo. They chased Tumbelas and Othawa pride killing a sub and recently a single PCM chased both the NK and Tumbela at the same time. They are also very big and physically powerful.

I don't think N'was are weak and Amahle's recent feats of resisting the 2 BDM without taking serious injuries and chasing what it seems to be the Skorro male are great showings of strength, but as far as perspective goes there's truly no reasons to assume N'was are the strongest.

I'd say PCM > or = Gijimas > Ndhzengas > BDM.

And as far as Ndhzengas chances go, I don't think any of their neighbours are threats, Gijimas are way too down south and have 2 prides already, PCM too west of them and with too big of a territory and 3 prides, and the BDM can't even properly oust Mohawk, challenge S8 or give any trouble to the Nkuhuma pride, and when they got a golden chance of taking Amahle out, they barely did anything to him.

If Nkhulus don't attack them and some new KNP lions show up, the only potential threat would be the NK coalition in 1,5+ year from now, but a lot can happen in 1,5+ year.

@WildRev nonsense? Read above, Gijimas sucessfully chased off 5 Nkhulus and the prime Delaporte male, meanwhile Ndhzengas, when they were still 4, were chased off by 2 Bboys, a coalition that at their prime ran from 2 old Majingilanes who'd die of old age less than a year after that, all despite Bboys being in their territory and outnumbering Majingis 3 to 2.

They chased and beat 4 Kambulas males and sister, badly injuring one not long ago when 3/4 Kambula malea were already 4,5yo+.

Ndhzengas never did anything nearly as impressive.

That was when they where very young and just entered sabi sands every coalition then young has been chased around so that doesn’t matter to the conversation plains camp males got chased gijimas lost a member and got chased ever since plains camp males territory  has constantly had 2+ nomadic males in it nwaswitshakas territory not really anyone londolozi really isn’t their territory nobody has dared enter their territory because they think there are 4 males still probably but still until proven otherwise they are the strongest plains camp are right behind them until they do something the black dam males haven’t even taken over a pride so they aren’t that strong because they haven’t challenged anyone not saying they aren’t strong And yes the gijimas caught the Uboso alone then the rest of them came and chased them away and haven’t returned to nwaswitshaka territory since and the third brother is gone. The plains camp males have done a lot of chasing and only “killed” one male theyve chased skorro many times but he cames back nkuhuma just returned talamati boys got chased a few months ago but came back and got chased today those males keep coming back but nobody will enter nwaswitshaka territory why is that? Also amahle and company are the reason for blondies death plus TB but Mohawk props aced him unlike the nkuhuma male who didn’t save nhenha… but basically until they are truly tested you can’t say they aren’t the strongest coalition plains camp males coming in a close second

If I'm not wrong N'was are around or almost 8yo, they were chased off by Bboys when they were over 5yo already and soon became dominant over the Styx and Southern prides. At that age and with their numbers, it's definitely a bad showing running from only 2 lions.

Gijimas were chased 2v2 against N'was while a third injured N'was was still there roaring, and one of the Gijimas was barely 4yo, while the other possibly below 5 too. As for the third male we have no idea what happened to him, we can't even proof he was involved in that clash.

Nomadic males in PCM territory isn't a show of weakness by the PCM, they always chase them when they find them, issue is that their territory is massive, bigger than the Ndhzengas even when Ndhzengas were 4, their territory has historically been held by 6 Mapogos and 4 Majingilanes, but they are only 2.

As far as "nobody dared entered their territory", the 2 young Gijimas literally did that and crippled one of them when they were still 4 strong, the BDM who aren't what one would say a strong coalition have challenged them when they were still 3, and now that they are 2 they had some sort of clash according to Mala Mala. Skorro male has recently roared in their land and had to be chased off, Gijimas recently entered their territory in Londolozi too, many months before Nkhulus entered their territory in Mala Mala, the examples go on...

Ndhzengas were the strongest when they were 3-4, but as far as duos go, we can only judge by how each coalition has performed in clashes and other stuff like aggressiveness and size, and like the Londolozi ranger says, PCM are huge, aggressive and have fighting experience going on for them, most people will definitely agree with that take and put them as the strongest.

As for the Gijimas, if anyone still doubted their strength, their recent feat of chasing the Nkhulus after 1 hour of back and forth is insane, there are studies where scientists oust dominant males by like playing 3 roars in a territory of 2 males, and usually the lions will only 100% reply a challenging roar if they outnumber their foe, the avererage lion is cautious to even accept an even challenge, so the fact the likes of Gijimas and Avocas can chase off 6 challenging, huge males of 4,5yo+ and a prime one with them, is nuts.

It's not even like the Nkhulus are shy and fully nomadic without interest of taking over ( like Talamatis or NK males that don't target other subs or random females, and can even hangout with them ), they tried to beat the Gijimas, they challenged them, but at the end, after an entire hour, the Gijimas came out victorious. Hell, the Nkhulus have been scent-marking and roaring around for many many months, they kill and eat subadults and lionesses left and right, and were 6, still, Gijimas chased them off. Reply