Nkuhuma Pride

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@Mapokser "So cats aren't self-aware because they don't recognize themselves in the mirror? I guess dolphins, elephants, apes and other animals are, they can recognize themselves."
These animals all rank among the most intelligent in the animal kingdom. Lions, while being predators and therefore ranking reasonably high in terms of intelligence, are not. Can a lion learn sign language? Or to paint? Or play the piano? Or play sports? These animals are all in a different league.
 
" Lions can't count? Sorry, but they can, this is scientific proved, and we see this every day in the dynamics."
Yes so after googling this I will admit I was indeed wrong on this. And now I think about it of course it makes sense they can. Like that video of the Gijima males and Nkhulus. But I still don't believe this makes them sentient or self-aware. As I said, pigeons can count.
 
" Morality is always, without exception, subjective."
Really? So is that why humans are constantly debating whether murder is morally acceptable? Or rape? Or theft? Embezzlement? Kidnapping? Things done to children which I will not write. You know why these things are crimes in all countries around the world? Because they are, objectively, immoral. Do you think animals understand the concept of crime?


" Who told you that a selfless person is morally superior to a selfish one? God? Because unless he descends here right now, proving his existence and tells us that, there's no method to define what is morally wrong and right, it's simply impossible, every person can have their own morals ans nobody can prove those are objectively right or wrong."
Don't bring god into this. This is a discussion of biology and wildlife/animal behaviour. Do you want to know one of the ways to identify a psychopath? Lack of a MORAL COMPASS. Hence why some of them end up committing those crimes I previously mentioned. How could everyone else have a moral compass if it's impossible to prove whether something is objectively right or wrong. We all internally know not to kill people. Not to steal. Not to kidnap children.
 
"So not only lions can't be immoral but neither can humans."
This is a worrying statement. See above. Reply