Lions of Sabi Sands

[KM600]

(01-15-2024, 10:14 AM)Mapokser Wrote:

(01-15-2024, 06:51 AM)KM600 Wrote:

(01-15-2024, 04:32 AM)Mapokser Wrote: @KM600 Mohawk and NK males left after Kambulas arrived and started roaring. Even if they didn't chase them off, they're clearly the reason they left.

Mohawk and his sons were sticking to that territory for almost a year, they wouldn't coincidentally move off 50km into Kruger suddenly without any reason to do so.

This makes zero sense as Mohawk/sons were caught on video a few times roaring around Nkorho at the same time Kambula males were also in the area, I remember sending in the videos and asking how they’ve managed to avoid each other. And them moving that far into KNP is more likely their own doing, Kambula males certainly didn’t send them that far packing even if they did put pressure on them without going into KNP themselves. 

It’s like when the Kambula males first went into Northern Sabi Sands after focusing on Umkumbe/Londolozi and parts of the West, nobody knows why it happened, it just happened. Kambula males can’t even oust the only two dominant males in Northern Sabi Sands so I doubt they could successfully oust Mohawk/sons within that short a time frame.

After what, one, two weeks, they vanished for good? Seeing them roaring once or twice after the arrival of Kambulas means nothing.

Again, I'm not saying Kambulas chased them, but their arrival and 4 roars surely was the last incentive they needed to leave. Prior to that they had never went fully nomadic and at best would hangout on the Manyeleti and Kruger border, now they are 50km into Kruger, it's far from a coincidence.

And what do you mean they can't oust the BDM? They have done it already, the BDM has no claims on the land anymore, they are low profile since their last clash when the northern guide said he saw the BDM south after the clash, saying his bet was that Kambulas chased them, they are a duo of Tumbelas now, wandering around their previous territor. The PCM have gone out of their incredibly vast territory to chase the Kambulas off, do you think the BDM, if still territorial, are just coincidentally unable to find the Kambulas? They aren't, they are avoiding them. Once the Kambulas arrived the BDM quickly found them and went to deal with them, initially seemingly succeeding, but soon were outmatched and now are nomads.

And BDM > Mohawk/sons, the BDM were territorial, the dominant males, NK and Mohawk would avoid and get chased by BDM so it's the opposite, if Mohawk and his sons couldn't deal with the BDM, they wouldn't want to stick around the Kambulas who ousted the BDM with little effort... hell K4 was patrolling and roaring alone for possibly weeks ( to a point Singita thought their pride was down to 3 brothers and the sister ) and the BDM, after their defeat, didn't even try to sneak on the solo Kambula male... I don't even remember the last time we saw the BDM patrolling, roaring or scent-marking, and their last sightings had all been on Singita or Londolozi, they're done done.

Never said Mohawk/sons were a stronger coalition compared to the BDMs but they would’ve been as hard if not harder to oust compared to the BDMs due to them not sticking in one spot. Also the last sighting of the BDMs was around a few days ago in ChitwaChitwa so they’re clearly not as gone as u seem to think, they’re never going to leave until the Kambula males oust them, if they oust them. 

Furthermore the point about the BDMs no longer being territorial because they haven’t had further interactions with Kambulas directly contradicts ur point about Kambula now being the main, dominant coalition in the North. If there’s been no further interactions it’s because both coalitions are avoiding each other, I’d argue Kambulas more as they moved back into Londolozi and since go back and forth. Reply