Lions of Sabi Sands

[Tr1x24]

(10-27-2023, 05:37 AM)Mapokser Wrote: @Tr1x24 1/2 Ndhzenga is hardly "small", he is hella small, like legitimately one of the smallest lions ever seen. I wouldn't say size means nothing, but I'd agree that it usually doesn't mean much and it hardly is a problem for Ndhzengas.

Yea, we totally saw him next to many male lions so we can make that conclusion, that he is "smallest male ever seen" lol..

(10-27-2023, 05:37 AM)Mapokser Wrote: And I didn't say BDM are weak because of Ndhzengas, I listed a lot of reasons for that, to put it simply, they were blessed with a good area, low competition, tons of opportunities and still couldn't accomplish anything, reason why I said they' re below average in strength.

What you mean they didnt accomplish anything, they are territorial males for almost a year now.

(10-27-2023, 05:37 AM)Mapokser Wrote: As for Ndhzengas being the strongest, that'd definitely surprise me if true. I never thought they were particularly strong due to running from 2 Bboys 2v4 ( as three 5yo males + one prime male ), and after that they never had the opportunity to show off much strength, though recently they have shown a lot, so yeah they are strong, but I still think PCM and Gijimas are the strongest and would put my money on them if they met Ndhzengas in Londolozi.

When they where running from Bboys they where definetly not even close to 5.

Never showcase their strenght? Not true.

Yea, young males being chased in their nomadic days definetly shows how they will be strong as territorial males.

Literally every coalitons was chased by territorial males in their younger days, that means nothing.

Hey, even 2 Ndhzengas chased these 2 Gijimas, and now you are telling that Gijimas are stronger, but when Ndhzengas where chased as young males, for you thats sign of weakness? You contradict yourself.

(10-27-2023, 05:37 AM)Mapokser Wrote: And as for females, lions don't usually get females for free, if every lion would wait for females to get back in estrus they'd almost never take any prides.

Even Nhenha and NK who weren't a big deal, having a weak bond, killed off the entire Othawa pride while trying to take over. If BDM were any stronger they'd be hunting down the Nkuhumas until they get accepted.

Hunting down? NKs dont hang in their territory 24/7, they roam whole northern areas, hunting them down means entering neighbours territories.

And if they do hunt them, NKs can easily just went full nomadic and leave the area, as they did once when they where seen in western sector when BDMs ousted Mohawk, so what, you suggest BDMs hunting them to western sector?

Western sector is easier for that, as its fenced with 3 sides and area is fairly small, its basically choke point, and if pride doesnt want to go full nomadic and leave the area, they can be easily tracked and hunted down over time.

(10-27-2023, 05:37 AM)Mapokser Wrote: Mohawk and sons are no threat now, but are still with the pride that it "should" be BDM's as they defeated Mohawk who's now nomadic, still they lack the strength and drive to properly oust Mohawk and take over the pride... Plus give it a few months and suddenly Mohawk + sons won't be "non-factors" anymore.

Again, Mohawk, sons and NKs dont only hang in BDMs territory, in fact they are avoiding that area as much as possible.

In the end, its more to it then "why they just dont track and hunt the pride down" or "oust Mohawk and sons completley from the area".

If females are determined to protect subs, they cant get tracked and hunted down that easily if they have space to run, same for nomadic males.

Bigger coalition obviously has better chance of doing this stuff.

Syxs with subs where avoiding Gijimas in the same manner for a year, until 2 adults recently came back to estrus, Gijimas couldnt track and hunt them neither, its not that simple.

Gijimas basically had same scenario as BDMs, they where with ony 1 adult and 2 sub females for over a year, and i dont see anyone arguing about that as sign of weakness. Reply