Lions of Sabi Sands

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@Mapokser 

1. You are claiming that with every lion vocalizing he is trying to challenge for territory, we dont understand lion roars that well and we dont know what Tumbela meant with his vocalizing. How do you know that he didnt just try to locate Ximhungwes?? 

2. As for fights, yes, not every fight or outcome is the same, because of many reasons. My theory is that Nhenha/NK where existential threat for PCMs, they first ousted them and then Nhenha/NK few times returned and challenge them, PCMs did what they need to secure their rule, by eliminating 1 of their threats. Remaining NK or Tumbela are not existential threats, as they cant defeat them as solo males, so PCMs intensity towards them will not be the same. 

If a coalition of 2 or more, or lets say 4 Kambulas invade PCMs, intensity will be high, as thats direct existential threat to their rule, if they catch 1 Kambula, they will try to eliminate him, and not let him go after 5 sec as they did with Tumbela. 

Its all about how lions percieve the fight. Is it worth or important for them to waste energy and risk injury to kill this lion, leopard, hyena etc., if it is, they will kill it (as they could Tumbela there) , if not, they will let him go.

3. As for "if Tumbela is not threat to them, it is to cubs and females". Males dont care much about that stuff, just look how PCMs "care" about their offspring in Mhangeni pride, they dont even visit them that often. Males care about their territory, when they lose territory, they are out, they dont stay and protect their offspring, like females.

4. I didnt deny that PCMs catch Tumbela before, I just want evidence. With social media there is so much false info around or invented narratives. I just want someone to confirm this story, how do we know that maybe 4 Kambulas, or 2 Talamatis who hanged there at that time, or even Mhangenis didnt attack him.

5. As for Tumbela health, even before this injury, he looked quite skinny on occasions, you add to that leg problems and thats a reason for concerne. On few sighting he looked scary thin.

Weight problems + leg problems are symptoms for a disease, "black spot" disease has that symptoms, which many lions here had.

I hope its only injury, but i dont think we can say it with 100% that it is, just compare him from 2022 and now, that male was one of the most impressive males in Sabi Sands.

Ok, he is nomad now, so life is tough, but we are not vets to claim that he is 100% healthy besides that leg injury, who nobody saw how he got it or if even it occure as injury.

6. In the end we dont know with 100% certainty what is going on, we dont know what lions think and why they behave like that, we dont know what Tumbela is up to, why PCMs look like tolerate him to extend, about Tumbelas health etc. 

Your and my opinions are basically speculations, and might be completley wrong.

I like Tumbela too, im just point out what i see Reply