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(10-09-2023, 03:13 AM)BA0701 Wrote: You may well be right. I just recall seeing a video that explained that after Notch's brother was killed, he and his sons went nomadic, and returned later to take the pride back over. Only thing I know for sure is that the Notchs were absolutely enormous lions.
(10-09-2023, 05:15 AM)KM600 Wrote: Just double checked and ur right Notch and his sons never come back to retake Marsh Pride, with the Mapogos I know they didn’t successfully takeover the Sparta Pride, they pretty much just harassed them for many years, but they did control the territory kind of like we see today with the BDMs controlling the whole of Northern Sabi Sands despite S8 and Mohawk still being pride males. On top of that, Ik it’s not 100% accurate but many ppl believe Makhulu was most likely from the Castleton/Ximhungwe Pride because the WSM had also controlled that pride and as we all know they Mapogos were later dominant males of that pride.
Im just saying that if NKs (with or without Mohawk) takeover (or try to) their own natal area from BDMs would be very rare occurrence which is not very likely to happen.
BDMs chasing them often is good thing, as it may force young males to leave this area (which is prob a good thing), as they still look to be very attached to it and the pride.
Young males can leave at any point, recent example are 3 Bboys (white male group), they where still in the natal area and with pride up (ocassionaly exploring further) to around 4.5 yrs of age (older then what are NKs now), and then all of a sudden out of nowhere they moved north of Timbavati and challenged 3 RPMs.