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09-13-2023, 05:28 AM( This post was last modified: 09-13-2023, 05:43 AM by BA0701 )
(09-13-2023, 05:17 AM)Mapokser Wrote: I hope S8 isn't ousted anytime soon. There's only one adult and one subadult female in that pride, the female will need at least this subadult to make it and help her rebuild the pride once S8 is ousted.
And at the subs age they won't have a good chance if their father is dethroned.
My thoughts exactly, and same goes for RRM, Nharu Pride has a lot of cubs and subs to see through to adulthood. As you already pointed out in a previous comment, Sabi Sands never recovered from the losses during the Mapogo period, less than half I think you said. Well, given that, I think it is imperative that cubs be allowed to reach adulthood, there is just too much turn over of Pride Males. Othawa Male's cubs a perfect example of this, not a single one made it, and now the Mangheni are starting from scratch once again, with a group of aging females.
To qualify my comment further, I don't know that the turn over of pride males occurs more today than it did then, but what does seem clear is that there was tremendous loss of lions during that period, and when they continue to reproduce at the same rate, with the same pride male turnover rate, with less lions overall, it would be nearly impossible to rebuild to previous levels, following such losses. As an example, I say to look to the American Buffalo, back to the mid 1800s and earlier, the American Plains were blackened by the massive herds, over hunting nearly destroyed the species. They are still not even close to where they were, but the recovery that has been accomplished was the result of human intervention.