Lions of Sabi Sands

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@Friarfan619 I'd be surprised if Talamatis aren't pregnant by now, they've mated with S8, PCM, Ndhzengas and Gijimas by now. But who knows they might have mated with NK and Skorro too.

@Tr1x24 I think you're hesitant in saying some lions aren't as strong as they "should" be.

NK is not a nomad for lack of opportunities, but lack of overall confidence and boldness.

He managed to be submissive to the old Nhenha and young Talamati despite being in his prime. He was also submissive to Styx and Tumbela. He has never proved himself by initiating a territorial dispute if he didn't had a numbers advantage and at the beginning was chased by the lone Tumbela with Nhenha.

Nhenha who didn't beat him due to experience or strength ( I doubt Nhenha was any stronger than him ), Nhenha dominated him because he didn't fight back, he didn't even try to claim mating rights in the video we saw.

NK isn't like Tumbela who for some reason thinks the West is his real home, he travels and explores a lot. If he was a bold male he'd have challenged some other loner for his territory like many other males do. Just north of NK male lays S8, Kruger Male and Red Road. A lack of opportunities isn't the issue for him, but do you see him ever challenging for a territory like that? I don't.

He had the chance of becoming dominant with his brother, his brother dies fighting the pride they tried to take; he had the chance of remaining dominant with his father for more than just 1 month, but they couldn't hold their ground 2v2 against a younger coalition, and while their bond wasn't like that of brothers, many males have success in new coalitions, the previous NK male also lost his brother, but joined Skorro who also lost his brother and they were a strong and sucessful.

People at the time weren't completely wrong in assuming that NK-Nhenha may have had been the stronger coalition, but it turns out they couldn't give PCM any resistance at all.

Now he is alone and could just go looking for a 1v1, but he'll never do that.

Same I'd say for BDM, you say It's soon to talk about their strength but IIRC you said they're like 6.5yo, they still have no proper pride despite Nkuhumas, Talamatis and Tsalala being around, all they did was mate with K6 which doesn't matter and Chela ( who may or may not breakaway to join them with any new cubs ). They faced outnumbered competition but A) Were initially chased off by Mohawk who had just lost his brother; B) Couldn't get rid of Mohawk or gave any real trouble to the NK pride at all despite meeting them multiple times; C) Were chased off by S8 at least once despite being established territorial males already; D) Got a golden chance catching Amahle alone but barely gave him any injuries.

We don't even talk about BDM like they were a threat to NK pride.

Some males are bolder, stronger, more aggressive, some aren't at all, it's just how it is, just like when we were discussing size, most are average but some are very big and some very small, admitting it isn't the same as belittling any lions. Reply