Lions of Sabi Sands

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(02-01-2023, 08:07 PM)SMK350 Wrote: This is definitely an issue because prime males would typically seek out females not stay in one area for over a year without a pride. There are adult females with the Avocas who have been mating for over a year so there was no reason to let them slip through their hands. Just today I saw that the 4 Black Dams are "hot on the trail" of the Avoca pride. That's why they are dominant males and Mongawanes are, as of now, just bachelor males. The 4 Black Dams are not the same status as the Mongawanes.

Mongawane males where seen with few Avoca females when those females where in their territory, but Avocas are now hanging further west, more in BDM's, Mapoza and Hercules/Sumatra males territory.

For Mongawanes to aquire them, they would need to expand in those males territory, which would lead to direct clash. 

Mongawane males maybe not being confident enough or any other reason to expand their territory and challenge other coalitions, doesnt mean they are not territorial in their area around Shindzela, because they dont have a pride. 

Being territorial and being dominant can be interpret as 2 different things, you are territorial over territory/area, while you are dominant over pride/other lions, but we often look at these 2 terms as the same. 

Mongawane males are not "bachelors", they are definetly territorial males of Shindzela area, you could say they are not dominant, as there is none they are "dominating". 

As far as im aware, BDM's still dont have full control over any pride yet, only seen occasionaly mating with few females, so they are in the same status as Mongawanes pretty much.

I mean, if you consider males to be territorial/dominant only when they acquire pride, thats your point of view, my and prob many others is not, as period in between when males become territorial, by either ousting former males or taking free area, and time when they actually acquire pride/females in that area, can be very long, few months to even year/s, because of many reasons.

For example, lets say NK/Nhenha ousted Tumbela, and they tried to overtook Othawas, but Othawas run away from western sector to save cubs, no other pride like Ximhungwes is in the area, east of them are territorial PC males and cant expand further east, so what are NK/Nhenha?? They are fully territorial males of western sector, they literally ousted territorial/dominant male, its not their fault that Othawas run away and there is no pride in the area, when new pride comes in, they will acquire them, as they will be in their territory. Reply