Lions of Sabi Sands

[Slayerd]

(04-12-2022, 04:28 PM)Potato Wrote:

(04-12-2022, 02:34 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Nhenha was described by many guides as "one of the largest male in SABI SANDS" in this past few 3-4 years

You are overexaggerate now. Legend safari described him as bigger than Northern and Southern Avocas and Londolozi guides described him as bigger than Mohawk and Blondie Avoca (through that along with other guides opinions describing him as smaller than Matimbas, Charlestons or DM Avoca), but that does not picture him as bigger than other males of Sabi Sands like Ndzengas, KNP males, Tumbelas, PCs or Imbali male.

(04-12-2022, 02:34 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: that doesnt mean he is above average or something on grand scale,its just between this gruop of males in this area. 

 
The point is many I noticed describe him as such.

(04-12-2022, 02:34 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: We still didnt see Nhenha and Nkuhuma male shoulder to shoulder, so we dont know for sure, still looks to me that Nhenha is a bit bigger overall. 

We did not get perfect view yet, through we already got some pretty good ones, good enough to start making some opinions around them.

(04-12-2022, 02:34 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: And if NK male is near the size of Nhenha, why would that mean that Nhenha is not that big, rather than that NK male is big? 

It kinda means both to certain degree - than Nhenha is smaller than some expected and that Nkuchuma male is bigger. I was even myself expecting the gap in size between them to be bigger, not to mention those which were saying that Nhenha is huge and those (through those are probably the same guys) which were saying (when Nhenha was seen chassing Styx male in Londolozi) that Nhenha being much stronger could kill Styx male if he would cough up with him.

(04-12-2022, 02:34 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Nwalungu males where not small males, even before they link together,

Through probably not particularly big either, at least so far non of the guides said theywere any particularly impressive.

(04-12-2022, 02:34 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: Styx male was always looking as impressive and massive specimen for his age, when NK male join him, they where around the same size, both of them where already much bigger then adult Styx females, even before at 2.5-3 yrs

It is typical that 3 years old males will be bigger than adult lionesses within the pride.

(04-12-2022, 02:34 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote: of age NK was noticable bigger then Mhangeni Big Boy, who was more then half a year older. People prob got that impression that NK is small male because lack of his mane, which definitely helps for males to look bigger and more impressive. 

Comparisons to Big Boy are not fair as he wasn't typicaly developing male. His developement was hampered by the lack of food thorugh nomadic stage of life (that is btw main reson I would expect Tumbela males to also be among smalles males on the reserve at the momant).

(04-12-2022, 02:36 PM)Slayerd Wrote: We won't be able to easily tell but at 12 years old, he has probably lost a lot of muscle mass compared to his prime.

I do not think at all. Firstly I do not think he is 12 years old but rather good year younger than that. Secondly 11 years is not that old he would be losing muscle mass just because of his age. Also he is clearly not facing any lack of food income as he is looking at the moment more fat than ever before. His stomach arena is huge.

Your arguments are just denial at this point. According to Legend Safaris that have traveled to almost all areas and have seen many lions including DM Avoca, the Imbali Male, the Kruger Males and the Southern Avocas that Nhenha is the largest lion in Sabi Sands. This is further said by Singita who say that in conversation with other reserves within Sabi Sands, they believed the Birmingham Males were the largest lions in the reserve. A guide who has seen the massive Black Dam male and many more coalitions commented that in terms of lions that impressed him, he would put Nhenha with the Charlestons and Matimbas. The Ndzega Males have been described to be much smaller than Nhenha and recently Tayla who used to work at Wildlife Safari commented that Eorenji is the smallest lion she has ever seen. The Tumbela Males have been described as small to the point that they were compared to Junior when he was 3. Now I'm no expert but I don't think Junior was the size of the Othawa Male and therefore not the size of Nhenha. Your argument against the Nwalungu Males is quite hypocritical considering how much you praise the PC Males size and yet there is no big comments on them being the most impressive lions either. In fact I'd say the comments are quite similar. "Lions who are getting more impressive as time goes on." And Nhenha is definitely nearing or is already 12 years old and at 12 years old, is definitely losing muscle mass. It's like saying a 65-70 year old man is as athletically built as he was in his 30-50s. Also you can clearly tell the size difference of Nhenha and the Styx Male last year when Nhenha chased him. Nhenha was clearly much larger. Also the comment on the Styx and Nkuhuma Male being larger than the Styx females at 3 years old is valid considering the Ndzega Males aren't that much larger than them. Reply