Lions of Sabi Sands

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(10-23-2021, 12:16 AM)Gijima Wrote:

(10-22-2021, 11:11 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(10-22-2021, 10:18 PM)Gijima Wrote: My point about the Majingilanes, who I actually never really liked back in the day, is more about their dominance over other male lions and willingness to fight for their territory. Like the way they marched back to Londolozi to chase away Matimbas or their take-over of the west. They really remind me more of the Mjejanes. Not that that makes them better or worse.. just an observation.

But agree with all your points above. I think we are privileged to see many successful coalitions, each with their own unique style.

I dont like that "narrative" that Bboys are not conquerers or that they avoid fights or something..

Bboys, just like Majingilanes, had 2 big territory takeovers in their lives, its not BBoys fault that Matimbas decided to run and not fight, its not their fault that Majingilanes and Matshapiris reign around central Sabi Sands was coming to an end at that time, Bboys would conquered that territory regardless because they where 4 prime males at that time.. 

Also, i dont understand your point that they dont want to fight for territory? Bboys until this year (only 2 and out of prime) didn't lost inch of their territory against their will.. They literally killed prime male who was invading their territory this year, and chased/fought numerous young males from their territory since 2016 (obiviously no males would challenge them for territory when they where 4 and even 3, so they didnt have to fight intruding coalition in those years.) 

You mentioned  how Majingilanes chased Matimbas (4 vs 2) but you didn't mentioned Nhenha and Tinyo vs 4 Nwaswitshakas? Which is far more impressive feat, and no, Nwaswitshakas where not that young, they where all around 4.5 yrs old (Wide Nose over 5 - 5.5 yrs) then and starting to establishing themselves.

People have that narrative that because Bboys didn't kill males in their territory takeovers, they are not fighters or "vicious" like Majingilanes for example who killed 2 males in their takeovers, which is funny, as they would definitely kill any male if they had a chance to do so, as it is in lions takeovers.. 

So i disagree, i dont think they are any different then Majingilanes in that regard what you said, both coalitions are one of the greatest in recent years of Sabi Sands.

You are comparing lions who lived in one of the most brutal times in lion history, to lions who lived in one of the most peaceful times in lion history. 

There is no comparison as I said. Even in this generation, there are plenty of duo coalitions who are older who are doing far more than the Birminghams.

I told myself I won't get into debates with fans of particular coalitions. These days no one can have a realistic conversation about the strengths and weakness of each coalition. It's just endless "size" debates, who chases who more, and on and on. 

When I talk about the Majingilanes I'm not talking about "chases". I'm talking about territories held and their strategy they had till their last breath to not give up ground... something only very few coalitions succeed in doing. We all read the reports and saw these events.  I think the BBoys have done perfectly fine and their strategy is keeping them alive and healthy. Good for them. But they aren't the Majingilanes. And head on the Majingilanes proved they were superior by pushing five Birminghams back east and not giving up any ground to them while they were alive. So what's there to debate?

That the Majingilanes were always 4 and in their last years they were 3, the BBoys have been reduced to 2 and losing two members in a year and are in the center where they have pressure from all sides, the Majingilanes did not have much pressure in their last years In their reign only in the eastern sector with their numbers they could retain almost any threat, it is true that the Majingilanes held back the BBoys who were very young and inexperienced and the Birmingham were more interested in the Matimbas territory at that time.
Tinyo and Nhenha have done very well as a duo, considering what has happened to them lately, I doubt that any duo from this generation are doing more than these two warriors.
Although the BBoys will never be like the Majingilanes but there is no belittling the Birminghams. Reply