Lions of Sabi Sands

[Timbavati]

(10-22-2021, 10:18 PM)Gijima Wrote:

(10-22-2021, 09:24 PM)Timbavati Wrote:

(10-22-2021, 07:50 PM)Gijima Wrote:

(10-22-2021, 07:25 PM)Timbavati Wrote:

(10-22-2021, 06:52 PM)Mangw Wrote: When the BBoys were taking over prides they also killed a few lionesses if i remember correctly

Exactly, they've killed one of the Nkuhumas females on August 05/06 in 2015, they also killed one of the Styx females on 30 August 2015, One of the Tsalala sub-adults in December 07 2017 and counting some others. These are just a few things of what the Birmingham males did in their long reign. Without a doubt. A very succesfully and neat coalition of lions. They reminds me a lot to the Majingilane males...

I won't put the kills of females and subadults on the list of "accomplishments" for any coalition--- in fact it's actually counter productive to kill females. 

And not the start a debate but there is NO comparison to the Majingilanes who went toe-to-toe with some of the best coalitions of their day--- often equal in size and number-- and won. They were fighting even after they were "old lions" not giving up an inch of territory. They are in the league of their own.

Thank you for someone who mentioned this is just nature and a natural part of lion dynamics.

Of course not my friend, I'm not counting the kills of the lionesses as accomplishments of the Birmingham males. If not, telling how aggressive and tough they were with the takeovers in their younger. I don't have any doubt that their accomplishments were their offspring and territory conquered, The Birmingham offspring is pretty alive in Sabi Sands, like the Nkuhuma, Torchwood, the deseased Styx male, the Nkuhumas females, Mangheni lioness, Kambula sub-adults members. They're in their sixth year as dominant males in Sabi Sands and I hope there are more ahead. They have fathered plenty of cubs, For which I'll dare to say, they're one of the most succesfully coalition of lions in recent times. The Avoca coalition are in the same way with the Nkuhuma, Talamati and perhaps with the Kambulas in a future.

I hope the Birmingham legacy lives on for generations, and with the strong Kambula coalition I think it will. 

My point about the Majingilanes, who I actually never really liked back in the day, is more about their dominance over other male lions and willingness to fight for their territory. Like the way they marched back to Londolozi to chase away Matimbas or their take-over of the west. They really remind me more of the Mjejanes. Not that that makes them better or worse.. just an observation.

But agree with all your points above. I think we are privileged to see many successful coalitions, each with their own unique style.

Well said my friend, We're privileged to follow these lions on a daily basis via updates of rangers. It's absolutely incredible follow the journey of the lions. Since cubs to the adulthood. Reply