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(01-05-2021, 11:02 PM)Gijima Wrote: After looking into this, I'm realizing the Torchwood pride numbers are pretty straightforward... Mala Mala just added confusion to this in 2020 by making up random numbers and birth dates. From 2018-end of 2019 the pride was always reported to be 10 (4 adult females, 5 subadult female, 1 sub male). Then in 2019 Torchwood lioness had cubs and the number blew up to 17. I have no idea whose cubs these were... and they all ended up dying of mange. But this is when the pride started splitting apart, because of new cubs and males in the area.
You are wrong.
13 members from Torchwood pride in late 2018 (before those cubs who where born around 2019 who all died):
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Also theres another footage of whole Torchwood 13 lionesses and young male from Nkorho around beginning of 2020, i just cant find it now..
Torchwood pride definitely had 13 lionesses and 1 male... But its hard to follow them, because they are mostly in Kruger so we don't know whats going on with them..
I'm thinking many of these sub adults passed away. They would have only been 2-3 years old when the breakaways formed which is way too young to be alone. Most the reports since 2020 have been the Torchwood male with four sisters. Again I could be wrong, but I don't think may of these youngsters are still around. I think we tend to forget that most subadults don't make it to adulthood especially when there are so many shifts in male coalitions.