Lions of Sabi Sands

[Cath2020]

(11-22-2020, 09:36 PM)Gijima Wrote: @Cath2020 but people did provide multiple dated images (real dates by the photographers) and matched the whisker spot patterns to HB. We have pictures of him from 2007-2011 and videos too after that clearly seeing his development. 

This forum constantly gets overtaken by people who want to say that “[their favorite lion] is the biggest, tallest, oldest, etc” and can’t accept that other can respectfully disagree with them. The fact that @Nathan Aiden you accuse certain people of bias is ridiculous... they are the ones who are doing all the research to keep many of our forums active. Tino has probably  posted the most info in the Matimba thread this year... how is that bias?

Why not just appreciate HB and continue to provide good information on him? You used to give updates from the western sector all the time... Just share good info like we’re all trying to do here.

Okay, I never contested his claim on HB's birth outright.  Until I personally see evidence and/or speak to rangers who worked the year of his supposed birth, I cannot vouch for any date.  I'm just going by the general consensus, video clips of him, and what I think his age ought to be based a bit on his appearance.  Having stated this, I am keeping an open mind.  It's could be that his birthdate of 5/2005 was confused with another lion in his pride or coalition?

I never saw 'verified' photos or those with automatic dates showing month and year.  Maybe these were posted after I joined or I accidently overlooked them??  Anyway, even if those are verified legit for the year and month taken, there is still the issue of his appearance.  I have seen several photos of him when he was young claiming such photos were taken on this or that year, and the age that he was supposed to have been just didn't add up to his overall look to my eyes.  He either looked older or younger than he was supposed to have been.  I cannot recall exact ones as I did not save them.  

Anyway, the difference between 5/2005 or 1/2006, won't show a huge difference.  The photos of when he was a few months old might give a better insight on a more exact date.  

It's a shame there was no recording of birthdates of cubs for well-known prides back then.  Not sure if there is even that these days in the KNP and surrounding reserves.  

Olbernoti's birthdate seems pretty uncontested and more reliable based on official recording at the park, I believe.  He is looking to be able to survive to at least 16, too. Reply