Lions of Sabi Sands

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"Your definition of harsh life comes from injuries alone."

No, but obviously they do make life much more difficult in the wild. 

"Number 1, the Nkuhuma Young male was around his natal pride but was still forced out at the age of 2 years old,not 3"

If I am not mistaken he was with the pride up untill that time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab8oDdos1Ok&ab_channel=2011ACVVV 
and he was born in June 2016

"He lost his partner and mother"

Great most of male lions at that stage of life is cut of of natal pride. Many males are losing his partner. Some even lost multiple coalition partners through their lives like for example Hildas Rock male. I am not saying Nkuchuma male life was nice, but that it is as harsh as for most of other male lions in the wild.

"and dissappeared for months"

Some dissapear for entire life within Kruger, but how those that matter? That lion isn't spoted by rangers doesn't mean he is doing bad.

" How do you know he didnt starve during that time?"

When he was sighted through out nomadic male he was looking fine. Not too bad, not too well.

" He returned with less mane than he had when he dissappeared"

Well... I have seen nomadic males in better shape, but I could also point out good amount of males which were doing worst. To my eye Nkuchuma male was ok, as I said not too bad, not great either.

"His body is covered in scars and cuts."

That is how life of lion looks like. He is not more battle scared than other nomadic males. Moreover we will not compare few scratches to hole from buffalo horn (Xikukutsu) or think from inside body sticking of through big hole in the body (n'was) right?

"The Nkuhuma Young Male might have not had an injury like the Birmingham Young Male but injuries are not the only thing that makes a life harder."

To my position in which BYM was in was more harsh and I imagin painfull than Nkuchma male's. I already made my argument on it in previous post. You can think otherwise, but really do you think Nkuchuma male was in worst spot than BYM? :o

" On the other hand though, the Nkuhuma Young Male had to hunt for himself "

Nkuchuma male wasn't really long at all on himself. After he was kicked by his pride he was in company of his sister, then a bit on his own, and then he linked up with Styx pride.

"himself many times and was constantly chased off of kills by the Avocas or Hyenas"

Nkuchuma male spent his time in northern Singita, region without any dominant males who would stole his kill, nice spot, many other young males do not have. Also just about any other nomadic youngster he could be harrased by hyenas.

"Belly Scar had 3 brothers and sister he could rely on."

Nkuchuma male had sister and now has a pride, He was like half a year on his own or so. That is short nomadic stage of life. Many other males has much more harash that stage of life.

"The Mbiri Males still had each other to rely on"

Easly to say after seeing what they have became, but I would say that single 3 and half years old has much better chances to survive than 3 males of 2 and half years old. That is beside that Nkuchuma male as mentioned wasn't really that alone.

"The Nkuhuma Young Male didn't have that privilege, having to hunt since he was 2 years old"

He was 3 and half and at that stage most male lions doesn't have that privilege to still be with natal pride.

"and losing his partner and mother"

Same as many other nomads.

" He also had to fight the Avoca males getting into many scraps with Mohawk"


Many other nomads also have to fight other males and some are getting even much worst out of it like 3rd Mbiri than what Nkuchuma male got from Mohawka Avoca.

"I'm not sure you are aware of the Nkuhuma Males rough life"

I am not saying he do not have rough life. I am saying it isn't more rough than many other wild male lions. I would say his life was averagely rough for a wild male lion.

"You said he had the standard life of a lion? I'm sorry but that's bullshit. No standard lion had to endure what he did."

You mean what exactly? LIving a nomadic life at a age of 3,5? Losing a partner he was whit is a couple of months and did not even stick with that much? Being cut off from/lossing mother at a age of 3? I do not see there anythink special many other wild lions doesn't go through.

"Even though he was accepted into the Styx Pride this year, he had to take a massive beating to be allowed to do so"

That is absolutelly nowhere near what could be called a massive beating. rather opposite of that, they gave him few scratches, that is all. Reply