Lions of Sabi Sands

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(10-31-2020, 08:13 AM)TinoArmando Wrote:

(10-31-2020, 08:10 AM)BA0701 Wrote:

(10-31-2020, 07:57 AM)TinoArmando Wrote:

(10-31-2020, 07:34 AM)BA0701 Wrote:

(10-31-2020, 07:05 AM)Potato Wrote: "Makhulu was an exceptionally large male, as well. No idea how he would compare to Nhenha, and there isn't any photos or video of Mapogos interaction with the Matimbas, in order to compare."

Tough to judge such thinks. There is not much informations about how would Mapogos compare in body size to other lions althrough Sabi Sabi ranger said that Mak and PB were bigger than KNP males which were massive males. I do not think "exceptionally" would be right world, but Mak should be very large lion.

" I don't believe he was ever weighed during one of the dartings by Willem Botha,"

No such thinks in KNP as far as I know.

" but he was visibly larger than the other Mapogos, both thickness and height."

I do not think he was. Dreadlocks was roughly same size and Pretty Boy with Mr T not far behind. 

" That would be really helpful if they did weigh any of these animals while having them under sedation"

Helpfull to satisfy our curiosity? :) It sure would be intresting (for us) if they do so, I do not think lions themselfs need that tho.

" Do you have a belief on who might have been among the largest in SS history, or was your comment made in more general terms, like saying you're sure there have been bigger at some point?"


I was talking in general about lions I know that Sabi Sands guides claimed to be very large indyviduals, larger than other lions the arena. For example Southern Matimbas and Charlestons were always described by guides as massive males in any part of Sabi Sands they showed themselfs in.

Tough to judge such thinks. There is not much informations about how would Mapogos compare in body size to other lions althrough Sabi Sabi ranger said that Mak and PB were bigger than KNP males which were massive males. I do not think "exceptionally" would be right world, but Mak should be very large lion.

I used the word exceptional due to comments of so many Rangers in videos and web posts that were along the lines of what you mentioned with the KNP males. Exceptional, in that most knowledgeable people, who were fortunate enough to witness them in person made similar statements about him.

I do not think he was. Dreadlocks was roughly same size and Pretty Boy with Mr T not far behind. 

Oh, for sure, Dreadlocks was an absolute tank, and if we were fortunate enough to have seen actual weights, it would not surprise me at all if he was the heaviest of them all.

Helpfull to satisfy our curiosity? :) It sure would be intresting (for us) if they do so, I do not think lions themselfs need that tho.

Legit LOL'd. Yes, helpful to the current discussion taking place here. Anything short of that, and we are all simply expressing our opinions, and just like Hairy Belly's age, I'm afraid at this point that is all this particular conversation will be. Educated opinions, in some cases, but opinions nonetheless.

I was talking in general about lions I know that Sabi Sands guides claimed to be very large indyviduals, larger than other lions the arena. For example Southern Matimbas and Charlestons were always described by guides as massive males in any part of Sabi Sands they showed themselfs in.

Ok, I just wanted to check. There is tremendous knowledge on lions in this forum, including yours, so I didn't know if perhaps there was one in particular that is known to have been a monster above all others, or if it was simply a general comment. But, yes I agree as well, there will always be a bigger lion somewhere, either previously, currently, or even in the future.

Thanks for the reply @Potato Cheers my friend

I couldn't be more agree with the words about Dreadlocks Mapogo. He was a formidable beast. the size of his head and paws was AMAZING and EXTREMELY big! He was the leader alongside Makhulu. 
Dreadlock also was the father of the cub named "The Super Cub"
Here's a few good photos of Dreadlocks. at first glace we can see how big he once was on his prime days!
Image credits goes to: Khimbini Hlongwane,Michael Moss and S.Maan
Images date back from: July 2010 - 2007 - November 2007.

Which pride was "Super Cub" born into, and what happened to him? These pictures, especially the bottom one, are perfect examples of what my preferred body type is for lions. Dreadlocks literally looks like he could walk through a brick wall in that image. including that absolutely huge head of his. Still cannot believe he got poached, remove the human intervention from the equation, and who knows how things might have turned out.

The Super cub born into the Ximhungwe pride. 
That impressive cub has been killed by Mr T. I'll post images of the Super Cub in Mapogo thread, If you want take a look there more than welcome

Oh, ok so it was one of those. Ok, I will check there, thanks again @"TinoArmando"! Reply