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(03-08-2020, 10:55 AM)sik94 Wrote: I think its hard for us to know how these animals think, at best we can infer. So, to suggest that Nguvu recognized them from a few seconds of footage is a bit of a leap, Its possible but not grounded in solid evidence. Going on to say Nguvu acted a certain way because he recognized the Ottawas is even more of a leap.
I think lions do not care about their natal prides or their fathers. They might recognize them but don't protect or defend them in most cases. We have examples of this, Mapogos went after the Sparta pride, the sons of the black dam male are going after their father, the Mhangeni pride killed the lioness that raised them and saved them from the Majingalanes. The Notches also later took-over their natal pride, along with their father. Breakaway prides get into territorial skirmishes with their natal pride all the time.
Considering all that, I find it extremely unlikely that Nguvu's behavior was at all affected by the Ottawas.
Im telling what i see on this footage, its not a leap.
Well yea, males do takeover their natal prides just as Othawa would takeover the Othawa pride, but they fight pride males for that, idk if theres any case that they killed his own mothers or sisters, especially if they left them only 1 year ago as was in this example.
Fighting and even killing their own fathers is different, they where ousted by his fathers in a very brutal ways sometimes, after that they are a competition nothing else, theres a rare cases that they teamed up.
Mhangenis didnt kill Tsalala lioness that raised them, it was Kambulas, they never meet or interact before..
For the breakeaway skirmishes, it mostly happens after a few years of no interactions, when prides already establish their territories, and its mostly fights for food or with males involved, this kind of fights and agression can happen even in 1 pride itself. Its not like mothers, sisters and brothers dont fight at all in a pride, they do on a daily basis.