Interspecific conflicts, no canids of felids

[Shadow]

(11-15-2020, 08:01 AM)Dark Jaguar Wrote:

(11-15-2020, 06:53 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(11-15-2020, 05:31 AM)Dark Jaguar Wrote:

(11-15-2020, 04:50 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(11-15-2020, 04:27 AM)Dark Jaguar Wrote:

(11-15-2020, 04:02 AM)Shadow Wrote: Here is also dogs and midget anteater interaction. I wonder if these dogs had met midget anteaters before, that dog on the left made his moves fast and accurately while cautious same time. Poor anteater, I hope that it managed to flee in some way and not injured too badly :/ But dogs in that state of mind can be difficult to handle even if owner there. I didn´t see any other video of this same incident so difficult to say if the little one survived or not, but that didn´t look good :/

Unfortunatelly this happens many times as Midget Anteaters are very critically endangered species.

Midget anteaters try to do their best to fight off these large harassers led by humans and by their harassing vicious natures, despite not only being outnumbered but also outsized Midget anteaters still got to keep their balance standing as an way to defend itself and I really admire them for that (and by the mastery of their Jiu-Jitsu moves hehe), when cornered they will fight whatever it takes, but when its most powerful weapon goes in action, it can be painful.

In this case here there was 3 dogs led by humans harrasing one poor midget anteater and one of them payed the price and as usually happens the human had to step in to rescue the canid.

Hopefully that midget anteater managed to escape from being killed eventually but one thing I gotta say is that dog may have learned a lesson.

Yeah, I had seen that video before and that dog wasn´t too brave (in that case very good that it wasn´t). Some dogs make that puppy scream even if no pain but just panicking when something odd happens. I had once a dog which screamed like that almost for no reason, she was one funny nutcase :) I think, that she did many times on purpose and pretended to be scared. This dog on video for sure got scared, pain or not involved.

Anyway it´s really sad if people do this kind of things on purpose, some big dogs can kill or injure so little animal with one bite after all and I don´t think that midget anteaters really bother anyone while doing what they do. They are fascinating animals and their fighting style is unique.

Indeed, Its crazy these people's actions of such a wickedness killing many of these creatures in a such coward way.

That dog had a big reason to scream with alot of pain involved haha like as I mentioned When its most powerful weapon goes into action it can be painful, I meant their claws.

its curved and makes than able to dig out hard mounds, helps them climbing trees and most importantly its a self-defensive weapon, that's why you'll see them spreading their arms to fight off large oponents.

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Obviously its not as long nor as thick as their much larger Giant Anteaters cousins but they still do damages and once the dogs notices them they'll be more cautions on their attackings hence why that big dog you mentioned was pretty cautious with its approach and when you hear the dogs scream is because of the Midget Anteater's Claws.

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About your following post that position at 49 secs is because when feeling threatened it will stand up like that to fight off whatever presence is making it uncomfortable but they will eventually flee.

Yes they have nice claws and I knew it. If they can penetrate the skin it´s painful and it could be the reason why that dog screamed, but it could scream also because scared of surprising situation. Often when fighting pain isn´t there yet, but dogs can be noisy when surprised. That dog on the road with anteater was also interesting, when the guy with camera drove closer that dog didn´t seem to be in pain or so, but when that guy used horn suddenly that dog started  to jump around to get rid of that anteater. Also this dog Billy looked to be just fine in longer video of that incident with anteater. It didn´t seem to be in pain or any big wounds.

Sloth bears have same kind of claws but they also use those differently, not just grabbing and then staying there. It would be interesting to see if there are photos of injuries caused by anteaters. It would be interesting to see a bit better how efficient their claws really are in fight with that style.

What comes to that situation which I said to be funny it was just about that pose. Of course it was looking a way to flee all the time. I don´t write so much about the most obvious animal behaviors, because unusual things are the ones more interesting. Small animals always try to flee from bigger ones and naturally presence of attacking dog and human make small animal like midget anteater tolook for a way out of there. It has no desire to fight. In that way it´s good to talk about these things of course, that some people have odd ideas how some small animals are fearless and who knows what. Like when talking about wolverines and honey badgers.

Of course it´s kind of funny to see how they can act, but it´s not good if some people really think that some small animal "enjoy" when having to face bigger predators, while in reality they are seeking a way to flee. No honey badger enjoy meeting a lion or lions and no wolverine for sure isn´t happy when facing wolves or bears, even though their bluff works sometimes. I dislike especially how wolverines have been sometimes even demonized to be some nutcases seeking fights and killing all they meet. Good excuse for reindeer owners to shoot them when seeing if and when people believe that they are some "mass murderers". In that way it´s of course good to talk about these things and what is reality. For instance wolverines are interesting, smart and beautiful little predators and scavengers, but nothing to be afraid of. If meeting one in the woods it won´t attack humans like some craziest people think :)

A little bit off the topic, but there are really so many crazy stories which some people actually believe while based on nothing real.

Yeah the midget anteater doesn't want that dealing with larger opponents situation for sure.

The dog on the road was already jumping around trying to get rid of the midget anteater's Jiu-jitsu's hug before the guy approached, it was really uncomfortable with the claws being pressured into its nostril.

The billy dog was fine but at the end he wasn't as vicious as he was in the beginning of the video as the midget anteater hugs hardly specially at 28 secs.

Main point here isn't finding an way to put midget anteater above its much bigger harassers or taking them to a whole other level but to admire its defensive capabilities, obviously it wants to flee from its large opponents but when fighting back defending its life is what really gets me.

About the efficiency of their claws as you noticed Midget Anteaters can do damages but when it comes to the Giant Anteater its the very deadly ones as there are quite some cases of them defensively killing people in Brazil, killing pit-bull and Peter Crawshaw told me he already heard of cases of jaguars getting seriously injured in clashes with Giant Anteaters so their claws ain't no joke and are really efficent, no wonder jaguars are pretty careful dealing with them.

Their claws are designed to demolish rock hard mounds that can withstand very heavy weights on top of it without collapsing, in the Brazilian Cerrado you'll find many of those.

And yeah many people make many small animals like some you mentioned look like some freak of the nature fearless beast, They are impressive and got their well deserved prowess but we can't exaggerate by seriously speaking taking them to a whole other level but instead I'd say to admire their defending potential and how they deal with the unwanted situation just the way I admire the Midget Anteaters defensive capabilities.

That dog on the road wasn´t bleeding at all and it was for some time calm so I wonder if it was really in pain or was it for it half play at that time. There should have been some blood if claws digging in to something, it was good quality footage and road was clean what comes to blood. And Billy also looked to be just fine, nothing visible, his fur was black though. But he was shaken by that fight, obviously that anteater surprised it even though it managed to get it off his back. That third dog was clearly panicking.

It would be interesting to know more about injuries from that kind of situations, those claws look nasty but do they use them efficiently is what I wonder. I watched again on bigger screen and yes, those and yes, that anteater did stretch nose area of the dog and for sure some discomfort. Still I´ve seen dogs fighting many times and blood is there if wounds. Surprising that none could be seen. But if they mostly try to hold grip it can save other animal from nasty cuts. If they would make more swipes etc. they would cut open more skin. When slow movements it can cause discomfort but save other animal from some injuries. Reply