Birmingham Coalition Male Lineage

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(07-04-2022, 01:23 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(07-04-2022, 01:06 AM)Slayerd Wrote: 2. Your Othawa Male comment comes off as bias. The Othawa Male was around the Bboys when Nhenha was 8-11 years old and the Othawa Male was around 3-6 years old. Looking at current events Nhenha is giving injuries to lions in their primes at the age of 12 years old whilst walking away unscathed. The Othawa Male would have been around Prime Nhenha. So if you wanna go by facts, Nhenha should he stronger, more experienced and confident in a 1v1 to take the Othawa Male who he chased multiple times and eventually played a part in killing. In the Othawa Males death, Nhenha only seemed to have receive a limp which he recovered from in less than a month. So I would disagree with you that the Othawa Male would come out on top.

He was talking about the fight last year, not prime Nhenha. 

Lets not get in another pointless discussion "my favorite lion is stronger then yours".. Pls.

Nhenha and OM never fought in a 1 vs 1 , so we have absolutely 0 clue how would that fight go lol..

Just a remainder, that Nhenha lost to Skorro Jr. not so long ago, even tho Skorro Jr. sustained more dmg, Nhenha was the one who retreated in the end, also Nhenha was running from Mohawk Avoca last year in his territory, both males who are prob least impressive then OM was.. 

Tinyo also occasionaly beat Nhenha in fights for mating rights in recent years, so lets not form a narrative that Nhenha is some unbeatable machine, every lion, regardless how strong and big he is, lost a battle at some point in his life.

Also, this is offtopic and pointless discussion.

Bringing the Mohawk case seems pointless, Birminghams were not eager to fight and proactively looking for fights like some other coalition in Sabi Sands past, this whole discusion is indeed pointless i agree, but for the sake of it, it we are evalueating WHAT IF regarding Othawa's silly/bold incurion east into Mala Mala, we can't really compare the Mohawk encounter, where Nhenha was not sure about number of Avocas present and had relatively nothing to lose (Mohawk would bother and mate one of the Kambulas, no cubs in danger) and could choose to play it safe and fight another day if necessary, while Othawa allegedly went close to the pride and was potential danger to the cubs. That is why females supposedly took part in the attack and thus it doesnt matter much whether both Birminghams were there, it would not be 1 on 1 regardless, just one Birmingham would have home turf advantage, help from females and sense of urgency as Othawa went to far and need to be dalt with and there was nowhere to fallback on. Possibly Othawa's condifence could cause him not just getting into the situation but trying to escape too late in case females confonted him first (he possibly would not budge considering he did not really had to deal with hostile females before) and males arrive a tad later, when he could possibly be preoccupied with dealing with females and perhaps somewhat surrounded while more experienced males might have kept more distance in the first place (recently Othawa females chased off Nhenha and Nkuhuma, Nkuhuma and Styx could not assert themselves against maleless Mhangenis,...). Simply, a hypothetical fight would not happen in vacuum on even, neutral, ideal, unbiased ground but on real turf with all the possible influences and impacts  - a surrounding where experince matter, one thing that Othawa lacked (and both Birminghams had plenty). Physically he might have upper hand over Tinyo, Nhanha I would not be so sure about, rather the opposite tbh, great mane doesn't mean much in a fight, but either of the Birminghams would not take the fight if the odds would not be in his favour or he absolutely had to and imho such determination trumps bravado. Reply