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 (09-28-2020, 07:01 PM)Mohawk4 Wrote: The Mara fight that Slayerd mention was between Addo boys and Kwandwe Yea, @Slayerd there was already discussion with @Potato here about that topic of 2 Bboys vs 4 young N'ws.. Potato has clearly different "understanding" of lion clashes in this kind of situations.. As far as I understand he thinks that power wise adult/prime male = young male, that confidence, experience and fighting abilitiy is the same in prime males and young males... Which is definitely not the case.. Like we see in this videos, this youngsters are tickling that adult male.. Rangers said that Bboys where much bigger then N'ws at that time (since then N'ws bulk up alot, and today they are much stronger and bigger and could prob beat 2 Bboys) so if Nhenha catched that 1 male he would hold him without a problem, and prob cause some serious injuries to him and if Tinyo joined then that would be game over. Also he always says that 3 N'ws can just turn and maul Tinyo, just as Majingilanes did to KT.. Which is also not comparable.. Majingilanes where in process of takeover Mluwatis territory, they where in that area for months, they where already in war with Mlowatis.. Bboys vs N'ws was just a establishing boundary between 2 coalitions, not a takeover attempt.. N'ws where just exploring territory north to see how far they can get without getting warned by other coalition , they where first time in MalaMala, and first time encountered Bboys, they have no idea how much males can be there, they would never turn and fight because they dont know situation. Question yourself, why would N'ws turn and fight to them unknown males? they have 0 info about them, they dont know if they control any pride etc..they have 0 value for turning back and fight, only risking injuries and possibly death, for nothing... Next time if N'ws came to their territory, then we know that they came with purpose, to fight and take their territory, thats a different situation, and in that kind of situation i agree, its risky to chase them like that.. But this wasnt that kind of situation.. Theres almost 0 examples of clashes if some coalitions meet for the first time, that always ended up with the chases back and forth for weeks or even months before some serious clash, unless young males get caught (Bboys get first chased by Matimbas, Avocas get chased by Bboys, Mluwatis chased Majingilanes, Mapogos chased Selatis etc etc) None of these newcomers fight with dominant males on the first sight and they all run away at first.. In "theory" his claims are right, 4>2, 3>1, easy win, right? But we are talking about young males vs prime males, not prime vs prime males where numbers matter much more, young males would run and scattered in 90% of this encounters, and then gets killed when isolated.. Just look at many cases where young males with bigger numbers in coalitions gets killed.. TL: DR In this situation 99.9% of the time young males will never turn and fight dominant/prime males, unless they get caught and are forced to fight. |
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