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ON THE EDGE OF EXTINCTION - A - THE TIGER (Panthera tigris)

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( This post was last modified: 06-01-2022, 07:50 PM by Apex Titan )

Here's a recent video (2020) of biologist Alexander Batalov stating that the tiger 'Ochkarik' killed the huge male brown bear 'Chlamida', who was harassing the tigress 'Rashel' and her cubs, to steal her kills.

This gives people (especially the bear posters) no excuse to ignorantly accuse the Russian journalists of twisting Batalov's words and "making up stories" for a "fanciful" article. Its important to note, that only Batalov is the expert authority on this case, as he is the only Russian biologist that studies the habits and behaviour of the tiger 'Ochkarik' and documented/reported the case of the big male brown bear 'Chlamida' robbing the tigress's kills. 

Contacting Seryodkin was a desperate attempt to try and "debunk" this account. Seryodkin is completely irrelevant in this regard, as he doesn't study Amur tigers in the Durmin reserve in the Khabarovsk region like Batalov does. Seryodkin studies tigers in the Primorye region in the Sikhote-Alin areas. - A totally different region and area from where the tiger 'Ochkarik' resides. So Seryodkin knows absolutely nothing about the tiger 'Ochkarik', the tigress 'Rashel' or the big male brown bear 'Chlamida'.... period.  Also note, Seryodkin never once said this case never happened.

I got Batalov's statement accurately translated by a Russian poster. Here you go, straight from the horses mouth on video! ....

Batalov:  Here we have a tigress Rachel, that's her name, she lost two tiger cubs because a brown bear harassed her. He...

Interviewer: Well... it's at least natural, that is, the essence of nature.

Batalov: Absolutely! Absolutely! Yes, he was just pursuing her to take away the loot (food). Well, in the end, two tiger cubs disappeared somewhere, but the male who came, this famous one, our Ochkarik who, after all, well, saved them from this trouble, most likely he liquidated (destroyed) this bear.

Here's the interview; Go to the 16:22 mark:  (Use English subtitles)






Batalov in at least 2-3 different interviews with Russian journalists reported this case:


"The bespectacled tiger somehow killed and ate a brown bear, which was chasing Rashel the tigress with a tiger cub. After that, he was so inflated that Batalov could not at first understand what had happened. But then I found bear meat in tiger excrement."

https://takiedela.ru/2021/02/zoloto-tigrov/


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https://habinfo.ru/aleksandr-batalov/



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https://infourok.ru/rasskaz-o-vsemirno-i...29910.html

Chlamida, an exceptionally large male brown bear suddenly vanished, when the male tiger 'Ochkarik', a bear specialist, appeared and came to help the tigress. Around this time, Batalov also found the remains of a large brown bear that was killed and eaten by 'Ochkarik' in his excrements. The huge male bear 'Chlamida' was gone, never to be seen again.

Batalov in the video, nor in any of his interviews with journalists ever mentioned anything about hunters playing a part in the bears disappearance. He is adamant, that Ochkarik killed and ate this particular bear out of revenge. And this coming from one of Russia's greatest experts & authorities on Amur tigers and bears. In fact, even Krechmar (bear biologist) recently stated that Alexander Batalov is Russia's largest bear specialist.

Its a well known fact, that tigers ruthlessly destroy their competition and potential threats. Its also a well documented fact, that tigers are very vengeful and vindictive predators, that can hold a grudge and have carried out premeditated revenge killings in numerous cases (Vaillant, Batalov, Fomenko, Kesri Singh etc).

Ochkarik, a moderate-sized tiger at around 180 kg, was able to slaughter a massive male brown bear about twice his own weight. But remember, the tiger 'Ochkarik' is a habitual bear-killer. He, like most male Amur tigers, knows how to skillfully kill bears. Amur tigers have the size, skill, strength, power and lethal weaponry needed to attack, subdue and kill even a significantly larger bear than themselves. Add to this, being a natural born killer, a phenomenal killing machine that has a strong vindictive nature and is specifically built for hunting, subduing and killing large dangerous animals up to 7 times its own weight, then you can see why the tiger 'Ochkarik' was able to kill such a huge bear.

The male tiger 'Dima' (also a bear specialist), with only 3 canines was able to easily dispatch a large, similar-sized adult brown bear sow in an instant. This confirms that tigers have the skill, weaponry and power to take out a large bear with ease.

Nature has proven over and over again, countless times, that size doesn't always matter. We see this in human fighters as well. There are countless examples of smaller guys dominating and knocking out fighters significantly larger and stronger than they are. Why? because the smaller fighter was more skilled, experienced, faster, powerful and more agile.

Despite Chlamida's immense size, being a bear, he was a true omnivore by nature, who's diet consists predominantly of plants, berries, acorns and pine nuts. Whereas the tiger 'Ochkarik' being a hyper-carnivorous apex predator, only lives off the flesh of bears and other animals he hunts and slaughters (i.e. a far superior, better-armed and accustomed killer). Hence why most Russian experts, naturalists and biologists favour the male tiger in a fight against even a very large male brown bear.

The huge male brown bear 'Chlamida' :


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And his killer 'Ochkarik' :


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