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(03-03-2021, 03:34 AM)Potato Wrote:

(03-03-2021, 02:32 AM)Tr1x24 Wrote: @RookiePundit Idk from where people are getting that Silver Eyes and Talamati females are sired by Mapogos, theres 0 evidence for that.. 

Talamatis occured as few Nkuhuma lionesses with remaining Nkuhuma male Dozie, run away from Mapogos and moved north into Manyeleti.. 

Even if some Mapogos mated with Nkuhumas, they for sure didn't mate with Nkuhuma gruop who become Talamatis as they where far away north..

1. Othawa females are born in 2008
2. Nhenha could be father of sub adult Tsalala, but it is save to say that other Birminghams could be as well.
3. Old talamati females are sired by Nkuchuma males in 2007
4. Avoca males are sired by 2 Old Avoca males. Old Avocas were part of Avoca/Giraffe coalition of course, I am just pointing out that younger Giraffe males are for sure not the fathers of Avocas.

Thanks.

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2. Noted. Where there is a consensus about probable parent within coalition/pride and is generally believed certain individual is a probable parent, I add that. Since we will never know for sure, it seems better to add well supported theories. I even included speculation based on looks in case of Othawa male and wrote down both Scar Nose and Hip Scar. As long as it is within the same coalition I see little harm in that.
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4. Added. Timbavati beyond Ngala is Hic sunt leones territory for me.

I have trouble founding useable info about Nkuhuma-Talamati split. The Mapogo attack came allegedly in December 2007 and cubs were kill in following months as well. I even found a claim no 2007 born cub survived, which is odd as Sizanani is supposed to be born that year and he and his later lame brother surely survived (were thy only ones). Did the split happen right there os Talamatis were regular breakway later - as it seems the Nkuhumas with Dozie in Manyeleti are still called Nkuhumas and both prides used to be more to the north than today in recent years. The next takeover should be Matimbas in 2010, right? Reply