Avoca male lions

[KM600]

(08-29-2023, 08:48 AM)Mapokser Wrote:

(08-29-2023, 05:00 AM)KM600 Wrote:

(08-29-2023, 04:17 AM)Mapokser Wrote: The Avoca male is in perfect condition, but as a nomad, and apparently alone, for how long? He is not that old but isn't young either. Even if he were to join up with another male, I doubt he'll ever be dominant again. He did try with his brother and it didn't work out. 

His only chance at becoming dominant again would be if he joined a big coalition.

Would depend on where he tried to rule, you have to remember the Southern Avocas are the most battle tested coalition in Sabi Sands. Majority of coalitions in SS only consist of two members, so as long as he found a good partner, I really wouldn’t bet against him becoming a dominant, pride male yet again. Also you’re on about the Northern Avoca male, Mohawk, the lion we’re talking about is his brother from a different coalition who resides in the Southern part of Sabi Sands.

I said nothing about Mohawk, I was talking about his southern brother.

S.Avocas the most battle tested coalition in SS? Maybe, but regardless, I always considered them one of the strongest duos. But the remaining male is apparently alone now, and even if he finds a partner quickly, it'll take time for them to bond, adapt and find a territory to potentially try to take over, until this happens, Avoca will have turned 11 already and it's doubtful if they'd be a strong coalition.

Keep in mind that S.Avocas, when they were still 2, soon after going nomadic, were seen mating with the Hamilton females and marking the territory ( which was something the 2 Leeubrons were also doing a month earlier ) and now apparently Leeubrons have established themselves there while Avocas are still nomadic and probably down to 1. So chances are the older Leeubrons outcompeted the younger S. Avocas ( even if they aren't responsible for whatever happened to the bigger Avoca ).

If the other Avoca would show up and join his brother and they'd still show a drive to be dominant, then they'd have decent chances, but if the remaining male is indeed alone, his only chance would be joining a big coalition.

Misinterpreted the comment after u said he tried being dominant with his brother but it didn’t work out, believing u were on about DM and Mohawks last reunion before tragedy struck. Even while the Southern Avocas went after the Hamilton pride, they were still dominant males over the Sand River Pride albeit they weren’t there to protect them from the Nkhulu males. That’s only changed since the lone Avoca male was spotted in Mala Mala by himself and without his pride. Even now, I’d argue he could still be considered a pride male at worst until there’s proof he’s been ousted from his pride. I think there was a lot of talk in regards to the Southern Avocas ‘abondoning’ the Sand River Pride but these brothers spend a lot of time in KNP, big reason we lack info on them as opposed to every other coalition in Sabi Sands. I think if it wasn’t for the Nkhulu males presence, ppl wouldn’t think anything of it. Ppl also believed DM abandoned the Talamati pride when he was facing pressure from S8, when I believe in reality, he was struggling too much to keep up with the pride. I just feel as if the word ‘abandoned’ can be misused. Reply