Avoca male lions

[Duco Ndona]

(04-16-2022, 01:42 AM)sik94 Wrote:

(04-15-2022, 11:40 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: For Nym and Nhenha it would be far more efficient to just kill Darkmane and enjoy a bigger share of the spoils

Not at all. Having one more member would make them the second biggest threat in ss. None of these two member coalitions would pose a threat, If they run into each other before NYM/Nhena have challenged for a territory, DM would be a great addition to that squad. Numbers are irreplaceable for a coalition, everything else is secondary. I don't see any circumstances where killing DM would be efficient, why take on that fight when you don't need to, DM is a free agent with nothing and no one would gain anything from killing him. If lions were so unwilling to share with each other, there would only be lone males, so I don't think that's an issue at all.

If strength in numbers were all that matters. We wouldn't have separate coalitions. Everyone would just merge in one huge coalition. What we normally see is much smaller groups.
Often the only big groups you see are those that have been together from when they were cubs. But even those often split apart.  

Ultimately every lion is in there for themselves. Competition within a coalition can become just as fierce as those between outsiders. 

(04-16-2022, 01:51 AM)sik94 Wrote:

(04-15-2022, 11:40 PM)Duco Ndona Wrote: Though in theory if they stay close enough, they can mate with the females and take their kills just fine and ultimately that's the only thing any male lion wants.

If that was all male lions wanted, they wouldn't have territories or stay with the pride long enough to protect the cubs to sub-adulthood. They have evolved to coexist with prides and if that wasn't the case, the species wouldn't survive this long.

They protect their territory which houses easy access to food and perceived mating opportunities. Having a pride is always far more cosy living than nomadic life. 

If they feel they can no longer find those in their current territory they will expand or in some cases abandon their territory, pride and cubs and all. Overtime the bonds between them and the pride may become strong enough to keep them around. But no male coalition takes over a pride with any thoughts about how or if they can keep it in the future. Even if they know they will be chased out tomorrow. They will still go for it, as tonight they will have sex. Reply