Avoca male lions

[WildLeonis]

(03-26-2022, 01:55 PM)Tr1x24 Wrote:

(03-26-2022, 12:42 PM)Potato Wrote: Northern Avocas  are clearly on a downfall. If all 3 would reunite then that would have been a different story. As of now however DM as nomad on his own probably won't survive long. Blondie is being slowly consumed by TB (apart of consistant thin, the is also very poorly healing wound as another symptom confirming that he indeed has TB) and there is question mark how much he can add in potential competition with other lions. In that circumstances Avocas could have big problem if some young males would decide to challange them or if PC males would want to aquire more females which they could find in the form of Nkuchuma and Talamati pride (therefore push further north-east into Avocas territory).

Well i think they are safe for now, as long as they are 2, i dont see PC Boys challenging them in near future, PC boys just establish themselves in Singita, so they will most likely stay there for now and take stronger claim on that area, prob will try to push for prides in that area, which are Mhangenis. They already started mating with 1 female, so thats a good sign. It would be foolish for them to already risk that for 50:50 fight with N. Avocas. 

There is no other real threat for N. Avocas in near future, N'ws will not push further north, north of them is 1 Imbali male and northeast now only 1 Kruger male as looks like other is gone. 

As for young or up and coming coalitions, Kambulas and Talamatis are too young to be a threat for atleast another year and theres no such young coalitions in Manyeleti or Mluwati Concession. Only unknown is what is east from them in Kruger, area in which are 5th Mantimahle and son, but i dont think theres a big chance that some bigger coalition cames from there. 

If we follow path of coalitions which dominated northern Sabi Sands in the past 15 yrs or so, those coalitions always came from the north (Manyeleti and Timbavati). 

So i think N. Avocas are safe for atleast another year, potentialy 5 yrs of dominance for coalition of 2+1 is big success, especially if they manage to protect those Nkuhuma cubs to subadult age.

I think they’ve established a legacy in Sabi Sands and have done very well thus far. How many cubs have they sired in total and how many were male? I know they had (9) cubs with the Talamatis whom DM successfully protected until they became sub-adults. I think (6) of those cubs were female and (3) were male. I believe all the sub females are accounted for. However, one of the sub males have not been seen in a while a may be presumed dead.

I’m a little fuzzy on Nkuhumas since WE left YT. Also when the pride moved south to Londolozi for about 2 years it was difficult to keep up with how their Avoca offspring were doing. I know that they had around (12) cubs? Ridgenose had (2) boys; Amber Eyes had (4) girls, Purple Eye had (2) girls and (1) boy and Chela had (3) don’t know what the genders were, but she lost those cubs. I believe the cubs by the other Nkuhuma lionesses survived to sub-adults. With one of Ridgenose’s sons dying last year due to injury. I’m not sure how many are still alive now. In addition to these cubs, the Avocas now have a 2nd set of cubs. I think it’s about (7) of them? Don’t know the genders. 

So from my count they’ve sired (27) cubs in total? With at least (22) of which are still alive? Reply