Avoca male lions

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(10-07-2020, 11:14 PM)Gijima Wrote: The video I showed has evidence of a literally fight, and here's another video: 

These aren't signs that the Avocas weren't challenged. They were challenged (sure half-heartily, I'm sure the BBoys could have put up a better fight if they didn't find new lands) but they did try to scare them away. That was my point and I don't think you can really argue with that. 

Anyways, I'm glad both coalitions found their land and females and no one died. I think it's strange in a wildlife forum people sometimes glorify dead and dying over just survival and resilience (not that you guys do it on this thread but just in general). I never felt the need to "defend" any coalition but this idea that they were never in any risk was always silly to me. 

Mfumo- Honestly this is just me speculating. Unless a male in his prime dropped dead in Mala Mala, in an area no one traverses, he must have gone somewhere else and gotten into a conflict. We will never know, he was one of my fav cats, and yeah... it's just my brain trying to make sense of something that will never make sense.

At the end of 2017 and start of 2018, the Bboys left the North to extend. They still came to the north every once in while but mostly stuck south going as far as to be seen in Lion Sands and Kirkmans Kamp far south to being seen in Western Singita far west so they were really letting their wings fly. That's almost all of Sabi Sands and in this time they chased and pushed out the Matshipiri, the Southern Avocas and according to Mala Mala kept the mighty Mantimahle from coming further north as they were seen pushing into Sabi Sands even being seen with the Kambula Pride on occasion. During this time, the N Avocas pushed into Sabi Sand and made a claim. 2 Bboys came, Nsuku, Tinyo and then later Nhenha and according to Safari Live at that time the Avocas tracks were seen heading into the Manyelethi. So they ran after hearing 3 Bboys roaring. The Bboys then stayed in the North for a while and then apparently left back south. After that wildlife safari released that video saying the Bboys were somehow injured and there could have been a fight. Well we don't know for sure. For all we know Nhenha got pissed and beat them up like he always does. And why did the Birminghams have wounds and not the Avocas? You really think 2 fully grown prime males are not going to beat the crap out of inexperienced youngsters and come worse off? I mean you can see what the Bboys do to each other, there is no way they wouldn't beat up youngsters. Yes the Bboys tried pushing them north but by then were already so far south and west they didn't need to. They just abandoned the area. Also you said 1 pride? No the Birminghams were still mating with the Kambula at the time and were still extending because they mated with  and took over the Mangheni pride and found the Tsalala. Again there are pictures of the Avocas after the dissappearance if Mfumo. Do you really think they could have killed a prime male and came out unscathed? Reply