Avoca male lions

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(10-07-2020, 07:01 PM)Gijima Wrote: Read something about how the NAvocas just walked into an empty territory on the Lions of SS thread and wanted to clear up that info (moving it to the Avoca thread to not spam the other one). I’m not blaming the poster since this is spread by some uninformed guides on WE all the time but here is a video of the BBoys coming to Djuma for the last time (May 3 2018) to fight for their territory and leaving battered and bruised, never to return again to the north:

[video=youtube]https://https://youtu.be/Q_NbRYXefYk[/video]

Some interesting things to remember:

1) Although BBoys moved to the south, they did often visit the north (nkuhuma and Styx in 2018). No coalition of 4 would limit themselves to one pride or even just Mala Mala. They would have ideally have owned most of the eastern sector as any normal coalition of 4 would, with multiple prides. The N Avocas had everything to do with limiting BBoys to just one pride and yes, BBoys could definitely have fought and ousted the Avocas if they attacked them as a coalition of 4 but they chose not to. 

2) In the video the ranger says one lion was seen running north. This fight happened in May 3 2018 and Mfumo was never seen after this date. This is purely speculation but could Mfumo have been with these two BBoys when they came up north? The last reports of Mfumo are that he was seen “up north”... so he had to have been with Tinyo and Nsuku because clearly they were up north too.. All of this is speculation I know but it always bothered me he just went MIA and this is the only real confrontation I can think of that happened at that time. 

Anyways....just wanted to share.

N. Avocas came here when presence of Bboys in that area was getting rare.. Few Bboys still visit their prides when N. Avocas where around, but N. Avocas only made a move for Nkuhumas when Bboys completely opt out.. 

Bboys definitely knowed that Avocas where around, and tryed to find them when they where returning (like in this video, but i dont think theres any report of actually confortation, its unknown what happened to Mfumo) but with them moving south and finding 2 new prides in Mhangenis and Kambulas with a lot of females in estrus, they decided that its not worth it to fight with Avocas, because majority of Nkuhuma and Styx females had cubs/subadults, so they wont be in estrus that soon..

The point is that N. Avocas didn't oust Bboys, Bboys partly moved out before Avocas came in, and then when Avocas where starting to establishing themselves, Bboys decide that its not worth to fight it.. 

Would Bboys completely abandon those prides if Avocas didn't came in? At that tim prob not, but over a months they would definitely abandon that area regardless.. Reply