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Felids Interactions - Intraspecific Conflicts

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 Mother’s love and nature’s calling | A record image made on Cybershot. A powerful memory nonetheless | Tadoba | Winter 2018-19.

While Chota Matka, the amorous three year-old male tiger entered Maya’s domain and finally the sanctum sanctorum, Pandharpauni, there was palpable tension in the air. Male tigers can be ruthless killers on their way to dominance and Maya, the experienced matriarch that she is, knew about the great perils that lay ahead! As she sensed the male’s presence in Pandharpauni, the cubs were safely hidden in one of her secret spots behind P2 and she came back to defend, to fight, to make a point! It was a full blown fight that ensued and lasted around 30 seconds (which can be potentially fatal in the tiger world), something that i had witnessed all but thrice in these years! The ground shook, the trees trembled and the scores of deer and langur that inhabit Pandharpauni all year round ran into oblivion. It was a moment of great proportions for us to see a 150 kg mother fight a 230 kg male tiger in his prime! She fought so valiantly that the male had to concede defeat that morning! We breathed a sigh of relief, the deer came back hesitantly and peace reigned once again in the hallowed battleground of Pandharpauni. My love and respect for Maya grew even more that morning! This is for you guys, @andrewff_892 @rchaparro77 @susibol78and thank you Roser! (How to differentiate between a play fight and a fight meant to kill: Look at the claws! They are otherwise safely enclosed in the sheath and released only during the most special of occasions.)
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(03-01-2019, 02:21 PM)Rage2277 Wrote:
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 Mother’s love and nature’s calling | A record image made on Cybershot. A powerful memory nonetheless | Tadoba | Winter 2018-19.

While Chota Matka, the amorous three year-old male tiger entered Maya’s domain and finally the sanctum sanctorum, Pandharpauni, there was palpable tension in the air. Male tigers can be ruthless killers on their way to dominance and Maya, the experienced matriarch that she is, knew about the great perils that lay ahead! As she sensed the male’s presence in Pandharpauni, the cubs were safely hidden in one of her secret spots behind P2 and she came back to defend, to fight, to make a point! It was a full blown fight that ensued and lasted around 30 seconds (which can be potentially fatal in the tiger world), something that i had witnessed all but thrice in these years! The ground shook, the trees trembled and the scores of deer and langur that inhabit Pandharpauni all year round ran into oblivion. It was a moment of great proportions for us to see a 150 kg mother fight a 230 kg male tiger in his prime! She fought so valiantly that the male had to concede defeat that morning! We breathed a sigh of relief, the deer came back hesitantly and peace reigned once again in the hallowed battleground of Pandharpauni. My love and respect for Maya grew even more that morning! This is for you guys, @andrewff_892 @rchaparro77 @susibol78and thank you Roser! (How to differentiate between a play fight and a fight meant to kill: Look at the claws! They are otherwise safely enclosed in the sheath and released only during the most special of occasions.)

Photos are so much more interesting when there is also text telling what happened! Nice photo and interesting occasion.
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(03-01-2019, 11:12 AM)Spalea Wrote: @Pckts :

About @239:

Why they say Tigers prefer to fight on 2 legs.... " That doesn't mean they are the lone felids to fight like this. Perhaps by doing this they avoid to bite each other and thus to be seriously wounded.

Nevertheless these two tigers are really impressive and I appreciate very much the "judo hold" and the final "ippon" !

They are the only ones that continue to balance and bounce around on their hind legs while smacking and clawing looking to grapple and throw the other to the ground. Some cats my rear up for a second or meet and attack on two legs but I have never seen another cat maintain its balance on two legs while fighting the way that Tigers do. 
This is fairly obvious to see and you can view many different videos of this occurring and on the flip side you'll be very hard pressed to find one of any other cat doing the same.
I'm not making a verses point, I'm not saying it's a better or worse style, it's just something that is visually noticeable.
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(03-01-2019, 05:36 PM)Pckts Wrote:
(03-01-2019, 11:12 AM)Spalea Wrote: @Pckts :

About @239:

Why they say Tigers prefer to fight on 2 legs.... " That doesn't mean they are the lone felids to fight like this. Perhaps by doing this they avoid to bite each other and thus to be seriously wounded.

Nevertheless these two tigers are really impressive and I appreciate very much the "judo hold" and the final "ippon" !

They are the only ones that continue to balance and bounce around on their hind legs while smacking and clawing looking to grapple and throw the other to the ground. Some cats my rear up for a second or meet and attack on two legs but I have never seen another cat maintain its balance on two legs while fighting the way that Tigers do. 
This is fairly obvious to see and you can view many different videos of this occurring and on the flip side you'll be very hard pressed to find one of any other cat doing the same.
I'm not making a verses point, I'm not saying it's a better or worse style, it's just something that is visually noticeable.

I didn't want to underestimate this fighting skill. And I can be agree with you to state that the tigers are the only ones among the felids to stay so standing on their legs. The leopards strike out very quickly their position by rolling on the ground for example, as concerns the lions, when there two males against one it would be useless, and at one against one it's shorter, I agree.

On this video, there are 4 sequences: the first 2 in tall grass, the third on the rock, the last one on a road surrounded by short and dry grass. So may be 6 tigers are involved... Probably too, these tigers are captive. Perhaps they are fighting each other without wishing really to kill each other. Because if they had clearly the aim to kill one another, they would try to use their jaws quicker. It would be interesting to see among the fights in wild if they stay as long as that standing on their hind paws. Perhaps this is an atitude inherited from their captive life.
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A very short fight between two captive tigers. But very impressive, even captive we could believe they are "on springs".
Of course the commentator expresse his admiration for the tigers but how to say him he is wrong ?




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Impressive fight between brothers
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Two tigers at zoo...




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An other one: "the use f lying down" explanation.




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@Pckts :

About #250: young tiger's death after a violent fight against its eldest (I don't say they are related)... In order to qualify this last one, the term "hound" (big dog) is used, because it could have less stamina, but was more vicious whereas the jungest one thought having won the fight. Very impressive !
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A full video about the tigers. But why does the part which involved another tiger killed another tiger by a neck bite looks like different tigers? The dead tiger also seems to be smaller than the victor.
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@johnny rex There is a full version of the video. Your doubt will be cleared if you see that. Tigers are same, one is tiger boy and other is then dominant one sundarbans. I posted that video somewhere in the forum (?).
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(04-16-2019, 04:31 PM)Sanju Wrote: @johnny rex There is a full version of the video. Your doubt will be cleared if you see that. Tigers are same, one is tiger boy and other is then dominant one sundarbans. I posted that video somewhere in the forum (?).
two different scenarios..sunderban vs tiger boy and the other is corbett with tiger boy's corpse
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https://www.jvbigcats.co.za/newsletters124.htm jv talks about the interaction @Sanju  @johnny rex
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