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Lions of Sabi Sands

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Hilda's Rock male lion & Charleston cubs

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Hilda's R. male, Charleston lioness and one male cub
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Charleston male cub #1

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Charleton male #2

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Hilda's rock sub-adult male lion

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Play time? Tsalala boys looking tough
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Londolozi Blog: 
After climbing down from the Jackelberry tree, the TSALALA pride proceeded to walk together towards the causeway. We positioned the vehicle at the bottom of the hill hoping for an eye level photograph of them as they crested the hill.


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The 6-strong Mhangeni Breakaway Pride - a phenomenal sight for our guests to encounter on their game drive
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From ron the ranger
The Ottawa lion pride have lost a wildebeest kill to the Avoca male lions all are fine, only minor scratches on the one lioness

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Now that Hip scar's gone this pride is much more vulnerable, not just the kids but also the young male.

I hope the Majingilane return and kick the lads out, otherwise trouble is going to appear soon.
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Once one of the younger coalitions challenge the majingis, I don't think the majingis would put up a huge fight. I could be wrong but a bold move by these avoca males could get them this territory If they are atleast 4-5 years old. How old are these guys?
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Are these the same Avoca males from Timbaviti?
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(03-24-2017, 07:22 AM)NCAT33 Wrote: Are these the same Avoca males from Timbaviti?

No, these boys are sub adult males from the Avoca pride, the Avoca males of Timbavati are oldest(6-8 years old) and they're sired by the Old Ross males.

Avoca males from Timbavati

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(03-24-2017, 04:20 AM)sik94 Wrote: Once one of the younger coalitions challenge the majingis, I don't think the majingis would put up a huge fight.

Based on what, exactly? 

(03-24-2017, 07:22 AM)NCAT33 Wrote: Are these the same Avoca males from Timbaviti?

To add to what Gamiz said, these are sons of the Northern Matimba males.
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Credits to Blaine Moolman - Dulini Private Game Reserve.

Through the Guide's Eye:


The arrival of new lions is always a tense time. Two unknown males have found their way into the Western Sector and it has caused us some concern regarding the three young cubs of the Othawa Pride.

Males who are not the fathers of lion cubs often kill offspring so that the females will go back into breeding condition, and they can then use their short time in control of an area to raise cubs that carry their own genes.

That is why, when we found out that a wildebeest the Othawa pride had killed was stolen by the imposters, we were very concerned, as the two groups of lions were only 30 meters from each other.

The young Othawa male is quite a bit over two years old now, and stands taller than the adult lionesses of the pride. He recently played an almost solo role in the killing of a big, healthy buffalo cow and is really coming of age.

Here he showed us that he has no qualms in taking on lions much older and bigger than himself, though with quite some fearsome backup. After the video ends, he walked around the males and produced what was almost a full roar as he circled them. He initiated this whole episode and carried it on for a while after the video ends. The mother of the cubs was also incredible, and we all feel that those little ones are a lot safer after seeing that. What a mother and what a lion pride!

That night, the Majingilane male lions returned west, and there have only been tracks of the two unknown males seen since then. One could say that order has been restored.
Thanks so much to Marissa Groenewald for capturing this for us, as it was a big marker in an incredibly tough lion pride's story.

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(03-25-2017, 02:59 AM)Tshokwane Wrote:
(03-24-2017, 04:20 AM)sik94 Wrote: Once one of the younger coalitions challenge the majingis, I don't think the majingis would put up a huge fight.

Based on what, exactly? 

(03-24-2017, 07:22 AM)NCAT33 Wrote: Are these the same Avoca males from Timbaviti?

To add to what Gamiz said, these are sons of the Northern Matimba males.

Just conjecture. Being as old as they are, any competent coalition of 2-3 young and aggressive males should be able to overwhelm them. If they catch one of the majingis alone, I'd say its game over.
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(03-25-2017, 10:22 PM)sik94 Wrote: If they catch one of the majingis alone, I'd say its game over.

That would happen with any lion.

(03-25-2017, 10:22 PM)sik94 Wrote: Being as old as they are, any competent coalition of 2-3 young and aggressive males should be able to overwhelm them.

They're still three themselves, and being older makes them the more experienced ones, and they're also in top physical shape.

Like this, any new coalition will need 4 males at least. But it's also a matter of waiting it out.
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(03-25-2017, 10:33 PM)Tshokwane Wrote:
(03-25-2017, 10:22 PM)sik94 Wrote: If they catch one of the majingis alone, I'd say its game over.

That would happen with any lion.

(03-25-2017, 10:22 PM)sik94 Wrote: Being as old as they are, any competent coalition of 2-3 young and aggressive males should be able to overwhelm them.

They're still three themselves, and being older makes them the more experienced ones, and they're also in top physical shape.

Like this, any new coalition will need 4 males at least. But it's also a matter of waiting it out.
Yes, it would. Even a male lion in his prime(6-8) would struggle against 2 young males(4-5), a perfect example would be the video of the two Birminghams fighting one of the Selatis. A 12 year old lion has a much less chance of fending off 2 young males. That makes them easy targets. If one of the Majingalanes goes out this way, the remaining two would have their hands full with the Birmingham and the Matshpiri males.

They have experience and are very good at strategically retreating and attacking when they have the upper hand, but that can only get you so far. If a young coalition smells blood and comes in all guns blazing, you have no option but to confront them. And I only see that confrontation going one way because of their age. Who knows.
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Are the young Charlestons and the Hilda's rock young male related? I read on the sabisabi page that they are siblings from different prides.
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