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N'waswitshaka males

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(02-09-2022, 11:29 PM)DARK MANE Wrote: Also am I the only one to whom the injury of gore is resembling more of a tumour type. Few months ago, it was only a little flesh that was hanging out. But it's getting bigger and biggerbigger. Really nothing can be done to confort him?

It doesn't appear to hinder him too much and his movements look natural. In the scheme of things, it is a natural incident that caused it and he's living with it just fine. If it were to cause his demise at some point then that is the way of the bush. Intervening in a natural process in a system where there is a stable and self sustaining lion population just means that at some point it might effect other species or lions that would not have been affected otherwise i.e. prey animals he might bring down, other predators and/or their offspring that he sees as competition such as leopard, cheetah, hyena, killing cubs in a takeover etc. All of the above might have life taken from them by making him completely healthy. Not that he might not do all of that anyway but the point is, everything is linked.

They might very well intervene for a cheetah or wild dog in that state, though, as they are highly endangered and the more healthy individuals there are of them, the better it is of the species as a whole. Gore doesn't fall into that particular category I'm afraid.
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(02-09-2022, 11:29 PM)DARK MANE Wrote: In the very first comments of this thread, I havehave learned that  in late 2019,the eldest of the 4 was around 5 yrs old, the middle one was 4.5 yrs old and youngest 2 are 4 yrs olold. 
Can someone tell who is who? 

Its not known their exact birth dates. 

3 of them are around the same age, born around late 2015 (Amahle, OE and Gore). It was pressumed that Amahle was older then them as he was more developed, but that might not be the case. 

WideNose/Ubuso is not related to them, we found that he came from different pride, he is older then them, born in 2014.
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(02-10-2022, 12:30 AM)Wyld@Heart Wrote:
(02-09-2022, 11:29 PM)DARK MANE Wrote: Also am I the only one to whom the injury of gore is resembling more of a tumour type. Few months ago, it was only a little flesh that was hanging out. But it's getting bigger and biggerbigger. Really nothing can be done to confort him?

It doesn't appear to hinder him too much and his movements look natural. In the scheme of things, it is a natural incident that caused it and he's living with it just fine. If it were to cause his demise at some point then that is the way of the bush. Intervening in a natural process in a system where there is a stable and self sustaining lion population just means that at some point it might effect other species or lions that would not have been affected otherwise i.e. prey animals he might bring down, other predators and/or their offspring that he sees as competition such as leopard, cheetah, hyena, killing cubs in a takeover etc. All of the above might have life taken from them by making him completely healthy. Not that he might not do all of that anyway but the point is, everything is linked.

They might very well intervene for a cheetah or wild dog in that state, though, as they are highly endangered and the more healthy individuals there are of them, the better it is of the species as a whole. Gore doesn't fall into that particular category I'm afraid.
Very well said.
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It would be interesting to see a veterians perspective on it. Not from one online on this board. But an actual examination of him on the field. 

But yeah. Its not good to intervene in these things.
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(02-11-2022, 01:33 AM)Duco Ndona Wrote: It would be interesting to see a veterians perspective on it. Not from one online on this board. But an actual examination of him on the field. 

But yeah. Its not good to intervene in these things.

I thought it was here in an earlier comment that they said it was scar tissue.  I forget the technical term used.   But since then I’ve seen comments from Reserve officials say that in due time, it will fall off.   They don’t consider it life threatening in any way.
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(02-11-2022, 05:33 AM)criollo2mil Wrote:
(02-11-2022, 01:33 AM)Duco Ndona Wrote: It would be interesting to see a veterians perspective on it. Not from one online on this board. But an actual examination of him on the field. 

But yeah. Its not good to intervene in these things.

I thought it was here in an earlier comment that they said it was scar tissue.  I forget the technical term used.   But since then I’ve seen comments from Reserve officials say that in due time, it will fall off.   They don’t consider it life threatening in any way.

"proud flesh"
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(02-11-2022, 05:33 AM)criollo2mil Wrote: I thought it was here in an earlier comment that they said it was scar tissue.  I forget the technical term used.   But since then I’ve seen comments from Reserve officials say that in due time, it will fall off.   They don’t consider it life threatening in any way.

I mean he lived like that for 2,5 + yrs now, so based of that, injury itself is not life threatening,otherwise he would be dead long time ago. 

Problem is that it is open wound, so only concern is infection/bacteria of some kind, which he could contract at some point.
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Adorable wild dog pups that were left alone by parents for just a few minutes have an unlucky encounter with an aggressive male lion!

https://www.facebook.com/latestsightingsgreaterkruger/videos/355585309769258
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3/4 males cross the Sand River heading back to the central portion of their territory after a night of vocalising deep into their rivals territory. 
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Yesterday morning, the Styx Pride along with two of the N’waswishaka male lions, were seen together with very full stomachs. We have not seen them for a few days, but we are happy that they all seem to be doing perfectly fine!


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(02-17-2022, 04:15 PM)Potato Wrote: Yesterday morning, the Styx Pride along with two of the N’waswishaka male lions, were seen together with very full stomachs. We have not seen them for a few days, but we are happy that they all seem to be doing perfectly fine!


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I think one of the male must be gore. He is often seen with styx pride.
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(02-11-2022, 10:41 PM)RookiePundit Wrote:
(02-11-2022, 05:33 AM)criollo2mil Wrote:
(02-11-2022, 01:33 AM)Duco Ndona Wrote: It would be interesting to see a veterians perspective on it. Not from one online on this board. But an actual examination of him on the field. 

But yeah. Its not good to intervene in these things.

I thought it was here in an earlier comment that they said it was scar tissue.  I forget the technical term used.   But since then I’ve seen comments from Reserve officials say that in due time, it will fall off.   They don’t consider it life threatening in any way.

"proud flesh"
With horses they keep it moist and clean because the moisture helps it to heal correctly. They give it a good squirting with the hose. In many cases they put honey on it to seal it and keep the bacteria down. They use honey for burns too.
I think if he had licked it more while it was healing, it would have healed correctly.
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Sister, prob Gore littermate, she still has cubs:

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