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Tigers of the High Himalayas

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(06-24-2022, 04:24 PM)GreenGrolar Wrote:
(06-23-2022, 05:50 PM)LonePredator Wrote:
(06-23-2022, 05:32 PM)GreenGrolar Wrote:
(06-21-2022, 05:13 PM)LonePredator Wrote:
(06-21-2022, 04:41 PM)GreenGrolar Wrote: Snow leopard kill Himalayan brown bear

"A two-year old brown bear (Ursus arctos isabellinus) was
killed and partially eaten by a snow leopard in Kazahkstan, but this must be quite unusual"
(Heptner and Sludskii 1992)

There is an account where a snow leopard killed a two year old Himalayan brown bear but that is the only interaction I can find.

The Himalayan brown bear is the only brown bear subspecies that gets dominated by a black bear. Therefore, I am certain the tiger will consider even a male Himalayan brown bear as prey should they come across each other. An account:


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https://books.google.com.au/books?id=TXI-AQAAIAAJ&q=Steppe+brown+bear+weights&dq=Steppe+brown+bear+weights&hl=en&newbks=1&newbks_redir=0&source=gb_mobile_search&sa=X&redir_esc=y

Also it is going to be extremely hard to see interactions between tigers and Himalayan brown bears as the latter is extremely rare.

"Common in Kashmir, that the brown bear follows the black one at a respectful distance when the last one goes on a faraging expedition towards the nuttrees, and picks up the nuts which the black bear drops accidentally"

Fascinating. The Bear could’ve been almost 1.5-2 times the size of the Snow Leopard and the Snow Leopard still killed it. What an amazing predator.

And I wasn’t aware of the size of Himalayan Brown Bears but it seems they are much smaller than the Russian and North American Brown Bears.

Bengal Tigers would certainly consider them prey.





4:25 to 4:60. The brown bear in Deosai National Park has the lowest birth rate among brown bears. They reach sexual maturity at eight at the cub stays with the mother for up to five years. Nevertheless as you said, it is still impressive that a snow leopard would kill one even though it is just 2 years old. Tigers can potentially enter the Himalayan brown bear's territory.

Here is the red bear's home range:


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The Himalayan brown bear (Ursus arctos isabellinus) is a subspecies of the brown bear and the distribution is restricted to higher altitudes across north-western and central Himalayas including India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, west China, Tibet and Nepal.
https://wildlifesos.org/our-work/bear/
Yes, I do realise that. By the way, do you have anything regarding their weight of Himalayan Brown Bears??

I have not been able to find anything reliable on this yet, only random articles stating anywhere between 160-250kg but those are obviously just some random guesses.

Here is one:


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Size: Males – 5 ft to 7 ft 3 in (1.5-2.2 m); Females – 4 ft 6 in to 6 ft (1.37m-1.83 m)
Weight: Males – 298 lb (135 kg); Females – 150 lb (70 kg)
Color: Reddish-brown to sandy
https://www.coniferousforest.com/himalay...n-bear.htm

And another one:


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They have thick reddish-brown fur and males are larger than females, with an average length of 1.9m and weight of 135kg, in comparison to the female averages of 1.6m and 70kg. They live at high altitudes - often above the tree line - and spend the summer months foraging, hunting and mating. The winter months are spent hibernating.

https://planetzoo.fandom.com/wiki/Himalayan_Brown_Bear

Since a female Himalayan brown bear only averages 70 kgs, it is not a surprise than a snow leopard can kill a 2 year old. The snow leopard is my favourite big cat by the way :). The male seems to be close to the weight of a sloth bear on average.

I personally wish there would be more info on this brown bear subspecies.

I have also seen these random articles but none of them are reliable. I highly doubt that females are just 70kg, there is no good source to confirm it.


The problem with these articles is that they show no reliable source to back their information so that information is most likely inaccurate.
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Tigers of the High Himalayas - Sully - 06-30-2017, 12:34 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - sanjay - 07-03-2017, 08:31 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 07-14-2017, 10:26 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 07-15-2017, 09:45 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 07-15-2017, 12:08 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Sully - 07-20-2017, 12:02 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 07-20-2017, 11:26 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 07-21-2017, 02:20 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 07-21-2017, 02:31 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 07-31-2017, 08:54 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Sully - 08-01-2017, 05:47 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 08-01-2017, 08:23 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 08-02-2017, 09:28 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Sully - 08-03-2017, 02:38 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 08-03-2017, 09:43 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 08-03-2017, 05:05 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 08-04-2017, 06:53 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 10-30-2017, 09:11 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - sanjay - 10-30-2017, 10:26 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - sanjay - 11-01-2017, 08:41 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - sanjay - 11-01-2017, 09:14 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 11-03-2017, 11:32 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 11-10-2017, 01:47 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 11-10-2017, 01:56 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 11-14-2017, 08:15 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 11-17-2017, 05:06 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 11-24-2017, 10:06 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 11-28-2017, 12:43 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 12-09-2017, 09:22 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 12-27-2017, 07:04 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 12-29-2017, 10:21 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 01-10-2018, 07:16 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 01-16-2018, 06:41 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 01-17-2018, 12:13 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 02-01-2018, 04:44 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 07-28-2019, 09:07 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 02-01-2018, 06:22 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Jimmy - 02-01-2018, 06:28 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 02-01-2018, 11:13 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 02-03-2018, 11:42 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 03-23-2018, 10:05 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 05-13-2018, 09:33 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - peter - 05-15-2018, 01:35 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 05-13-2018, 04:01 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 07-07-2018, 08:10 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 08-04-2018, 09:51 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Pckts - 07-31-2018, 12:44 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 09-01-2018, 08:52 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 09-09-2018, 06:15 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 09-15-2018, 09:17 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 10-17-2018, 03:25 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 11-30-2018, 10:23 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 01-01-2019, 01:25 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Sanju - 01-02-2019, 11:20 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Sanju - 01-08-2019, 01:20 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 03-19-2019, 10:25 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 04-29-2019, 08:28 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Pckts - 04-29-2019, 03:50 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 04-29-2019, 04:45 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Sully - 06-17-2019, 04:03 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 06-27-2019, 11:58 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 06-28-2019, 09:41 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 06-28-2019, 11:55 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 07-03-2019, 09:15 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 07-28-2019, 09:58 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 08-09-2019, 06:36 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 08-10-2019, 06:42 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 08-10-2019, 03:47 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 08-10-2019, 04:34 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 08-10-2019, 08:27 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 08-10-2019, 09:34 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 08-12-2019, 08:33 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 09-05-2019, 10:46 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 09-05-2019, 11:39 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Shadow - 09-05-2019, 11:26 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 10-15-2019, 11:29 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 10-26-2019, 08:55 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 12-09-2019, 12:58 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Lycaon - 01-03-2020, 06:28 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 01-22-2020, 10:19 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 01-31-2020, 03:01 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 02-26-2020, 09:24 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - phatio - 03-22-2020, 07:09 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 03-22-2020, 07:59 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 03-02-2020, 08:27 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 04-01-2020, 02:52 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Pckts - 04-01-2020, 03:11 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Pckts - 04-01-2020, 05:42 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 04-01-2020, 06:15 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 04-01-2020, 07:13 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 04-01-2020, 07:55 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 05-01-2020, 07:19 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 07-08-2020, 06:41 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 07-29-2020, 11:45 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Pckts - 07-30-2020, 01:08 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Sully - 07-30-2020, 05:20 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 07-30-2020, 05:49 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 08-05-2020, 09:08 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - peter - 08-05-2020, 04:25 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 08-05-2020, 07:02 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Pckts - 12-11-2020, 06:15 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 12-11-2020, 06:47 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 01-11-2021, 10:51 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 01-15-2021, 10:06 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Rishi - 02-01-2021, 04:07 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 05-29-2021, 11:58 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - LonePredator - 06-24-2022, 04:29 PM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Lycaon - 02-24-2023, 12:03 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - Matias - 02-24-2023, 12:06 AM
RE: Tigers of the High Himalayas - parvez - 03-25-2024, 07:42 PM
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