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Modern Weights and Measurements of Wild Lions

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(09-21-2020, 07:53 PM)Pckts Wrote: Claiming to break bones of prey with a paw swipe is vague. 

-what prey?
-which bones?


That source shadow posted isn't verified and nor specific. There is no way to know if a bone is broke from a paw strike, during the grappling or during the chase. 

The only way for two equal sized animals to break limbs with a paw strike would be if the animal is bearing all its weight on that limb and a freak the attacking animal hits it in a lucky spot. But even then its certainly not a clean break, its a fracture. 



In regards to skin measurements:
That is probably the least accurate source of measuring an animal. Skins can be stretched and depending on where its cleaned, the skin from the underside of the animal is included in its total length. You cannot make a rule like "subtract a foot" and call it a day the way you do with over the curves to between the pegs and even then its far from reliable as there are many ways to measure over the curves as well.

The claim of a Tiger having "fake increase" from its tail and long fur" is baseless 
Tigers and Lions both have 36" tails on average and if we're going by your claim, the tuft of the Lions tail would add false length. 
The fur claim is easily disproven as the largest Tiger chest girth belongs to Bengals and they have a much shorter coat. In fact, their coats in C. India are almost Identical to Lions. 
If anything, the Lions mane could easily be taken into account for chest and shoulder measurements and we could just as easily vlaim a deduction because of it.
Also the claim of their belly fold contributing to a larger chest girth again is baseless, if that were the case, Asiatic Lions would have larger chests than Africans at equal weights, not to mention many tigers have different degrees of belly flaps. Usually its an inch of rock solid fat. 


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This isn't a valid source, no of the references here measured the cats claimed and no way did either of the alleged young Lions weigh 550lbs.
Where are the actual measurements and who did them?

Edit: found the article
https://www.google.com/amp/s/dailyprogre...c.amp.html

First, these males have fathered over 12 cubs so no way are they 3-4 years old.
Next is that those weights are just an estimate for the article, there not from the capture. Its no different than an all encompassing weight during Amur captures, etc.
You need to vet sources better before claiming them as "legit,"
Many writers use wiki info when writing their piece.

Now this is back here, but paw swipe discussion for other parts is moved to big cat strength thread, which is more suitable, while focusing here to weights and measurements.

So people who want to see more about paw swipes, that is the place to continue if still willing to say something.
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