Birmingham Pride of lions

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(11-25-2022, 01:39 AM)Mdz123 Wrote: I believe its not very common, but its still a quite frequently seen behavior. Current examples is Afsaal males,I believe S. Shishangeni was already dominant over a pride, and then he formed a coalition with EBM.

Dont think S. Shishangeni was already dominant, any evidence on that?

(11-25-2022, 01:39 AM)Mdz123 Wrote: Another example is territorial Kumana male forming a coalition with young Maputo male.

That was strange, but prob the reason is the age of Kumana male, he was prob losing grip on his territory (similar like DM) and eventually give up fighting Maputo and accepted him (Maputo is also quite young and this was his first challenge for territory, so he was not as agressive, and accepted Kumana aswell ), prime male would definitely not do that or that the other, invading male, was already territorial before (like DM and Imbali situation). 

(11-25-2022, 01:39 AM)Mdz123 Wrote: An older and well known example is The last West Street male not kicking out Makuhlu from the pride, as if he is trying to get him to help defend the territory.

Makhulu was not part of WSM coalition, although they where quite tolerate of him, similar as Ross males where eventually towards BYM, i also think its the age factor of dominant males, prime males would be much more "agressive".

Also, there was a lot of examples like this, where territorial males tolerate their sons longer then they should, but eventually it never happened that they formed coalition while older ones remained territorial. Reply