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ON THE EDGE OF EXTINCTION - A - THE TIGER (Panthera tigris)

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(06-22-2021, 09:48 PM)Shadow Wrote: What comes to Chlamid, Rachelle and Ochkarik, for me it´s already old news. What comes to Ochkarik, Batalov has told in past about it, how Ochkarik has killed (that odd translation "crush" is just expression, when some animals manages to kill other, nothing more) some black bears. It´s no news in that way, that tigers do kill also male black bears. News would be only if one day would be found a reliable case in which a tiger would have been confirmed to kill an adult male brown bear.

But contacting Batalov isn´t that easy at all. We had discussion during 2019, some more emails than those two and after that we haven´t discussed. Back then I had to wait 1-2 weeks before he replied and surprised me.

Now I don´t have time or interest to ask more  about this case because whatever he would say, it wouldn´t make these new cases reliable from my point of view. Same person can´t tell two different stories contradicting each others completely and stay credible. 

This is clear case for me. First there is information available from 2017-2018, then that personal communication. And now some newspaper articles with some stories, which don´t fit to earlier things. I think, that there is more than enough to make conclusions.

And what comes to that "ancient" discussion about bears and tigers and how their conflicts end up, I don´t involve to that discussion until something solid and new comes up, which I haven´t seen in years. So I leave that discussion to people who love to go same circle around time after time recycling old things over and over again.

I end this issue from my part here, I shared emails and that´s it. I don´t waste any more time to this topic.

If you don't want to continue the discussion then thats fine. But its a fact that Batalov personally told two different journalists that Ochkarik killed and ate Chlamid, and there's a reason for this. If only you would contact him again, send him those reports and ask him why he said that. It would clear things up and we can get to a conclusion.

Personally, I believe the tiger killed the huge male bear, why? because Chlamid completely vanished never to be seen again, around the same time Ochkarik appeared in the area to meet the tigress. Even Batalov reported in 2017, that Chlamid stopped pursuing the tigress because of the male tiger 'Ochkarik.'

Just think about it, and see if you would consider contacting Batalov again. This is a interesting case.
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