Question for Peter

[Pckts]

(04-03-2015, 03:20 AM)'brotherbear' Wrote: Pckts says: ~~ once again we are talking about animals of the same size.
No we're not. We're talking about grizzly bears and tigers. Sorry to break the bad news to you, but a tiger might weigh from 300 pounds to 700 pounds; a grizzly from 300 pounds to 1500 pounds.
Tigers, as are all pantherines, are specialized ambush predators, built for stealth, speed, and agility. Sure, a tiger is strong, but strength is secondary to a tiger's needs. The grizzly is built for brute strength, for digging into hard ground, for overturning heavy objects, and for tearing into trees and stumps for food.
You take a healthy male grizzly ( summer weight ) and compare him with a healthy male tiger at size parity in reference to height and length, and I would bet all I own down to my boxers that the bear is superior in over-all strength.  
 

 

"Tigers, as are all pantherines, are specialized ambush predators, built for stealth, speed, and agility. Sure, a tiger is strong, but strength is secondary to a tiger's needs"


This statement is based off what exactly?
You obviously are not basing it off of anatomical structure, muscle distribution or lb for lb strength. Like I have already stated, weight of the combatants is the only true measure of their strength. Tigers are built for speed, sure, but they are built for power, agility comes from power. To be that agile while being 500lbs takes extreme muscle mass and power. To be explosive and leap requires extreme strength, to pull down prey double your size, drag it through snow or high grass all require power. You try and categorize one above the other, and that is wrong. You can't give me an example of a bear at the same weight downing anything a tiger at that weight couldn't do.
I can easily flip the script and say this, show me a bear jumping the height of a elephant at 350lbs out of tall grass like the tigress in Kaziranga.
Show me a Bear pulling down prey double its weight with ease. etc...
This debate is purely skeptical, especially if you are unwilling to compare body morphology at equal weights.
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