Modern weights and measurements on wild tigers

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(12-12-2019, 08:29 AM)Pckts Wrote:

(12-12-2019, 08:10 AM)Shadow Wrote: To clarify a bit. Of course no-one needs to like it, that some people are critical. I don´t expect people to like it nor do I care frankly speaking. I am just interested to find out reliable information.

Social media is one endless source for unreliable information, so naturally I don´t take too seriously all I see there. Poaching as reasoning to not publish all or some information too clearly is one quite ok argument. Same time it can be asked that if that is really something to be worried about so much, why then spreading that information all over facebook and other places and put all those pictures there? Do these people think, that people organizing poaching have no access to internet?

In reality now seems to happen so, that poachers know where to look for if they want to find big tigers. No logic all the way in that argument when thinking about it a moment, even though it sounds in the first place good. And on the other hand while some big tiger might create some extra interest for poachers, do they really care? People organizing poaching pay good money, no matter if tiger is 200. 250 or 300 kg.

Also it can be thought about it, that information could be given to people, who do research anyway. Like let´s say Ullas Karanth and others if information is really good. They could easily publish new and more or less record breaking information so, that location of the tiger wouldn´t be exposed. 

What comes to weighings, for instance it could be said if the tiger had been gorged etc. I guess, that tiger experts can separate a gorged tiger from normal looking. But that wasn´t said for some reason.

So when seeing information like that, I´m not saying that totally impossible. But I don´t take it as reliable weight just like that. As @Ashutosh mentioned, it could have been a 290 kg tiger and weighed after gorging. Or it could have been many other things in between. I have learned a long time ago to be somewhat careful when information like about this possible 340+ kg tiger comes up and wait for more.

It´s good to like animals, but it´s also good to remember, that things can be looked from different points of views. When forum name is "wildfact" and goal is to find out reliable information, certain level of criticism is and should be always present. No matter if we are talking about tigers, lions, bears, elephants or sharks etc.

Maybe that opens up a bit how I see things and why I don´t take that 340+ kg tiger as 100% confirmed with current information. I find it interesting though and will try to find out more information about it too. Luckily it´s 2019 and contact information of institutes and people are easy to find out for all who are interested to find out more information. 

And @Ashutosh , it looks like, that you like to talk about preconceived notions every now and then. Have you ever thought, that you can be seen as a person with preconceived notions, easily. It´s all about point of view. Maybe something to think about.

Regardless of this, dont they look like huge Tiger's, probably some of largest you've seen photographed in your life?

Yes, in photos many of those tigers look like to be very impressive, no question about it. Something what one could expect to see when talking about tigers which could be legit approximately 300 kg individuals. Robust and good looking tigers. Reply