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About #61and the linked account: very interesting theory which I'm agreee with. It's sure that even a T-rex would have an enemy, no one wild creature hasn't ennemy to fear. And the parrallel with the extant lions and tigers is good. A superpredator on land is never "invulnerable". At any one time, inevitably, he could be in a delicate situation, and of course, having need to drink at last one time a day...
An other interesting point I notice is the lenght of the whiskers according to the social or solitary way of life of the lions and tigers
If we were to use what happens with modern crocodilians and terrestrial predators such as the lion, tiger and jaguar, barring their aquatic rivals such as hippos and otters, then it would be a case of if the terrestrial predator is in the water, or gets too close to the water, then it is at risk of becoming a prey for the croc, but if the croc gets too close to land, or is being hunted by a terrestrial predator that is fond of swimming, then the croc is in trouble:
Crocodile killing an African lioness that was crossing a river:
Fang the South-East African lion scaring off crocodiles that his pride couldn't scare off in Masai Mara, Kenya:
Southern African lions eating a crocodile in Zimbabwe:
Machli the Bengal tigress killing a 14-foot mugger crocodile at Ranthambore National Park, northwest India:
Jaguars vs crocodilians:
That first video, where was said, that crocodile kills lioness. That was one of those fabricated videos. That first attack was mix from many different videos. Looks like there in first scene some antelope got killed even though first was shown a swimming lion from some other video. Other cases were one male lion which got attacked and survived. Then there were two lions, who got out of water. Other videos were better, but that first one was one of those fabricated to make things look dramatic.
I actually looked a bit closer that lioness scene. It looks like, that there is first filmed when some lion goes to swim, then naturally some other case, where crocodile goes to swim. Then again some closeups underwater etc. as can be seen to add dramatics. And of course when there is actual fight, everything is so blurred, that there could be happening anything, no possibility to know which animals there are actually... probably other one is at least some sort of crocodile, caiman or hippo :) Then, when it is over... after all those closeups, the best what people making that documentary can offer is some footage, where killed animal again could be anything. Also the crocodile seems to have transformed itself into a caiman :)
It is no secret, that in documentaries we see often fabricated scenes, but usually at least species are as those should be... In closeup, where there is some feline, I think, that it could be a puma maybe. Ears don´t look like a lion for me. Maybe @epaiva you could give opinion, when you compare 0:37-0:38 to what can be seen 1:02-1:09. Quite obvious, don´t you think? Then again 1:20-1:21 I think, that it is a puma, which then again isn´t connected to earlier scenes in any other way than that it is too in water for some reason.
I point out this video just because this is one good example about fabricated videos, and this was originally presented by Nat Geo wild. Same time there is a lot of footage, where lions and crocodiles are really fighting on land and in rivers. And this is what Nat Geo wild offers to viewers.
