The heaviest Liger ACTUALLY measured by Guinness (2014)

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(06-18-2019, 04:05 AM)Shadow Wrote:

(06-18-2019, 03:41 AM)Pckts Wrote:

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(01-06-2016, 11:06 PM)Pckts Wrote: Heres all the info on him....

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this was a young Baikal around age 12 when he was weighed

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this was him later in life

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He was much older when his death came at the hands of the two young males and he definitely could of lost a significant amount of weight in such a long time period. Old age gets the best of everyone...

This case Baikal is again one quite interesting. I mean 850 lbs tiger, which wouldn´t be obese... and only places to find information are some discussion forums. Nothing can be found otherwise, zoo´s connected to it mention nothing about such sensational tiger, maybe biggest ever if that weight would be real. I mean really???

I just wrote to Assiniboine Park Zoo and reply was, that tiger named Baikal averaged between 190-200 kg, person who replied to me knew nothing about claimed weight 850 lbs. I guess, that old tiger can shrink, but from 385 kg to under 200 kg. I really am not able to buy that. I asked again just to be sure, but something seems to be wrong in this case. And really such sensational tiger and only one photo about it could be found from internet. 

Interesting to see if some new information can be still found. Is that Matt John someone from this forum or? I mean how sure it is, that email is real?

Edit: Also look at head of those tigers in photos, looks like different tiger in summer photo compared to winter photo. Pattern on head is different and also otherwise I don´t see too much similarities.

It's a big cluster "F" no one knows the exact reason why Baikal's weight isn't confirmed by that zoo or if it's even the same Tiger or if the weight is even valid.

In regards to a Tiger being 850lbs in captivity and not being obese, I agree, it's extremely unlikely.

Here are some 600lber confirmed Amurs for comparison
This was from an old poster who worked with them named Eagleraptor

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The next two is of a Siberian tiger who weighs 611 lbs (he was weighed).

The zoo keeper in both photos is 5-10."

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"The next one is the first Siberian i looked after.

The people behind are on about 6 inch higher ground than the tiger."

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The next two are of a Siberian i sometimes visit, he weighs 602 lbs (been weighed)

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As you can see, these boys are large at 600+lbs but they still have a bit of fat so I really have a hard time imaging any cat over that size in captivity not having some fat on them. 
I'm not sure what people consider obese, I'd say these boys aren't obese, just a bit overweight.

Here's just how rare he said a 600lber actually is 
"Ive so far been to see in zoos 16 male Siberian`s, but only 3 of them was around 600 lbs,

and most of the others was between 400-500 lbs."

He did say that he thought this male, whoever he is could be 800lbs though

"Mostly i agree with you that most 800 lb cats are usually fat, but i would not say they are all fat.
This Amur tiger is not what i would call fat, but he apparently weighs around 800 lb, however, i'm not certain how credible the info is regarding his weight.
The reason i think this Amur (in first photo) might be 800 lb is because.....the second photo is a Amur that i often visited, and he was weighed at 611 lb by his keeper that i used to work with at another zoo (he is very reliable) he is also in the second photo and he is 5-10 tall.
If we consider the second photo shows an Amur over 600 lb, and by comparing him to the first photo....i would say the first Amur might be 800 lb as the info said."

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Last two photos, this tiger which might be Baikal and that 600 lbs tiger. I don´t see  there any significant difference. My personal opinion is, (and I want to underline that this is my opinion which anyone is free to disagree), that based on what I have seen so far any tiger weighing 800 lbs is clearly obese. I think so because I have never seen anything even close to that confirmed with known big tigers unless belly is hanging like it would be pregnant.
When looking for instance Jaipur, I change here to kg, 423 kg and so fat, that hurts to watch. I consider that already animal cruelty. Take from there 50 kg and it would be still be like pregnant waiting twins. With more exercise, like wild tigers get naturally, maybe there could be more muscle and less fat, but I think that if healthy tiger, it would be around 300-325 kg max, imo. 
More I see, more I tend to think that any modern big cat just isn´t meant to be anything near 400 kg. Even ligers nearing that weight are clearly obese every time. So how could smaller big cat weight that much and be healthy same time... It has to be remembered that already 300 kg tiger is exceptionally big and has been that also in past, not just recently. Thinking there almost 100 kg more.... maybe some individuals having same health issues as some humans, acromelagy or something like that... who knows.
But what comes to Baikal itself. Trying to find any source about it, outside discussion forums, I couldn´t find anything. Even photos about it seem to be from same forums. I find it very odd and that is why I think, that 850 lbs weight is just fabricated myth, not fact. But if someone can prove me wrong, by all means. I have nothing against it, but without solid proof I personally don´t believe in that after checking what could be checked.

It took some time, but I finally found something from internet about this Baikal tiger from Cherry Brook Zoo, which isn´t second hand information. Here is mentioned at least approximate weight of Baikal. There is still quite big difference compared to what I was told from Assiniboine Park Zoo, but this weight written in blog is something what sounds quite realistic if talking about really big tiger in reasonable healthy condition.

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"Well as much as I really did not want Baikal, our magnificent male Siberian Tiger to leave he is on his way to Winnipeg. After a year of paperwork and transport arrangements he is finally on his way West to the Assiniboine Park Zoo in Winnipeg. Moving an animal of this size is not an easy task but on Wednesday morning we finally accomplished loading a 700 pound animal into a transport crate that weighed 400 pounds and loaded onto a transport trailer."

Source: http://lyndacollrin.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2009-09-27T09:18:00-07:00&max-results=7&reverse-paginate=true
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