ON THE EDGE OF EXTINCTION - A - THE TIGER (Panthera tigris)

[Shadow]

(01-18-2019, 09:55 PM)Greatearth Wrote:

(01-18-2019, 12:56 PM)Shadow Wrote:

(01-18-2019, 08:55 AM)Greatearth Wrote: About tiger and dhole interaction. I think that tiger is defeating dhole pack most of times.
Just look male grizzly bear is fighting against wolf pack in the USA and male lions are defending its pride against hyena pack in the Africa. Why would powerful animal like tiger, which is more powerful/stronger than lion, would defeated by dhole pack? Dhole is seems to be more dangerous when they are with pack. Still, it would be useless if it is prime powerful male tigers.  Why would grey wolf is heading extinct where tiger population is rising in the Russian Far East? Howeve,r any situations can happen, I am sure dhole pack can kill tigers if entire dholes fight against tiger to the death. Like this one guy in Tanzania killed leopard without weapon when leopard attacked him fist (I heard this 2~3 months ago). Is it common to see man is defeating leopard with his two hands? 95% leopard will easily crush the adult man.
In general, tiger and dhole pack would leave each other alone. It's the same for other animals like bear and crocodile as well.

Btw what comes to grey wolves, they aren´t going to extinction in Russia, but tigers have expelled those in areas where tigers live. Wolves have just gone elsewhere, there is so much space and forests in Siberia and Russia :)

If you read/understand what I wrote. That was what I meant. Tigers drove away wolves from their habitats, and wolf population is extinct(or better to say disappear to other area) in tiger's habitat

I guess, that male tigers can climb a little bit because male lions climb too and sometimes surprisingly high. There is not so big difference between male tiger and lion in reality. 

And I understood what you said, but I still wrote about it, because some people could get wrong impression. If tigers would vanish suddenly for some reason, wolves would soon be back there.

What comes to lions and hyenas, I have seen a documentary where was lion pride and females eating. Then hyenas came there and started to harass them, it was said, that there were over 60 hyenas. Male lion came there and broke spine of one hyena with one paw swipe, others retreated. Then again in youtube there is a video where about 20 hyenas harass lone male lion and there is some fighting and biting until another male lion comes there and then hyenas retreat. Why some people believe some things, I have no idea. In youtube there  are so many tiger fanboys without any source criticism confronted by an army of lion fanboys with same attitude :) "Tigers always win.... tigers never flee..." "Lions always win.... lions never flee...". Still both win and lose, and flee. Of course anyone with any common sense doesn´t take those statements seriously. So I think, that it is no point to think why some people in youtube threads are delusional and denying everything what doesn´t fit to their "religion" :) They are just children or childish "adults", simple.

As I and others have noticed, dholes have certain reputation and it is interesting to look closer, that what can be found behind it. So at this point I personally don´t debate too much about this. I am trying to find sources and more information when time. 

Btw that man killing leopard bare handed... do you mean that old situation, where that hunter first shot leopard twice while leopard was closing up? Then managed to kill that leopard and was badly wounded himself, most probably he would have died too, but luckily there were people and he could get medical treatment almost immediately. That case? It was that small leopard, 45 kg if I remember right. Reply