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Bear Strength

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(11-24-2018, 09:13 AM)Sanju Wrote: A pack of bears facing pack of wolves representing the brute strength and domination of brown bears (may be from russia?).




This happened in a Dutch 'facility' this autumn. The voices say "...oh'...", "... ah ... ", "... they are playing ... ", etc. When they finally discovered the bears were slaugthering the wolf, they kept on recording.    

A few questions were asked after the video had been posted. I also read a few statements. To keep it short: nothing changed. In northwestern Europe, it's considered 'natural' to keep grey wolves and brown bears in one enclosure.

I've visited a few facilities where grey wolves and brown bears live in one large enclosure. Although it's true that incidents between both are few and far between, I sensed tension in every facility. Wolves have to watch their back all the time. 

I didn't see any 'domination', Sanju. The wolf was attacked from out of nowhere when it tried to get out of the water. When they noticed it was unable to defend itself, the other bears joined. I also didn't see a demonstration of 'brute strength'. Brown bears, even when immature, are bigger, larger and way more robust than grey wolves. The wolf had no chance whatsoever. 

I agree with Brotherbear in that the video is quite disgusting. One wonders why visitors record an incident like that. And why they decide to post it. A result of zero understanding and a total lack of respect, one would think.
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